Why Do Some People Say The Government Shouldn't Expand?

You may not get anything free, but millions of Americans do because of all the programs it must pay for. We are paying out so much more than we take in, that we have run up a huge debt. A debt that has now reached 11 trillion dollars and the interest we pay just on that debt is over 230 billion a year. But to hear this government talk, we need more government programs that pay better wages and benefits. Doesn't make any difference there is no money to pay for what we have now, lets add more.

 

The problem is, the economy isn't growing, it's retracting,(thanks to NAFTA, Free Trade and the housing bust.) We have less business here and taking in less taxes. Still Obama wants to add on to our burden, another 12 million new citizens, who I am sure half to two thirds will land on the already over flowing welfare rolls with the 15 million Americans that are already on it now. Does that seem like the right thing to do now?

Come on people, look at the whole picture. Not just the one your Party has painted for you.

 

You don't improve the game by increasing the number of score-keepers.

For you who play poker, government is the rake. If the rake gets to large the game collapses.

Government does a very poor job of allocating resources.

 

I am a Republican. But I have had plenty of disagreements with fellow Republicans. I'm not trying to put Democrats down. I can see good and bad in both Parties. But I truly believe what Obama is trying to do is not good for the country. It might make the Party stronger, but will do nothing but hurt this country.

 

Well if we balanced the hiring of more policemen, firefighters, doctors, nurses, etc with the much needed dramatic reduction in the military, prisons, and bureaucrats I think we could have a net LOSS of government jobs and actually make some progress. Bigger isn't always better. It depends on where you are on the curve. Obviously at certain times in our country the government was too small. Currently it is too large.

 

I don't know why anyone would say government can't do anything. That surely isn't right. Government has a place in our society. But it should be limited in what it should do. I think I have pointed up many times how government has made things worse, not better. But we do need government to keep companies honest. To keep our food and water supply clean and disease free. We need the military to protect us, etc. But it seems like the Left wants government much more involved. Some even want them to take over business and run it. While I'll always believe we need government, I will always feel that it should be limited. We don't want government running our lives.

 

Wow. This is came from a guy who would defend government's bailouts for banks and US auto makers to death.

Comedy gold at its best.

 

Yes because if you even gave it a little thought, you'd realize if they went under, our economy would have a hard time recovering. There are over a million other jobs that depend on GM and Chrysler. Without the banks to loan money for things like homes, cars, washing machines and a thousand other things this economy can't function.

I really get upset how both Democrats and Republicans are so willing to follow the Party line instead of thinking for yourself. Obama not only believed the banks and auto companies needed to be saved, but so did Bush and they had the advice of some of the smartest economic minds. So I don't apologize for seeing things different than my fellow Republicans. I think your wrong in your views on this. Same as I think Obama is wrong in his views on illegals.

 

Government does not make a profit but it does provide certain services, protections, etc. to We The People who (for the most part) voted for representatives that constructed these programs. The more 'programs' the more these entities vie for public tax revenue. (remember they do not turn a profit)
Since there is only so much free money to go around, the programs with the most need AND the best political connections get more.

Therefore, government programs are, for the most part, a drain on the economy yet, vital services are needed...problem is....those are the VERY FIRST services 'cut' by the Politicos when We The People threaten to take their 'honey pot' away.

It is all very logical and not hard to understand.

 

This claim needs/needs more evidence.

 

You need to be for what's fair (not saying republicans are the fair side), not what benefits you.

 

What? Did you understand what I said? When people talk about things being the equivalent of printing dollars that's usually a bad thing because printing dollars means inflation, which equals bad.

 

Need to say why/how

 

I'll take the would-be dictators who don't have any guns and have to provide good customer service to get what they want over the tyrants with the legal, and unlimited, power to use violence against anyone who doesn't obey their dictates. Corporations, being entirely legal fictions, are nothing without the state at whose altar you worship and whose power you would see grow unchecked.

 

So would you be against any expansion whatsoever, just because it's government, no matter what it is?

 

You are not contributing to this discussion at all. Please leave.

 

So, uh, what are those rich people doing with that money? Hiding it under mattresses? Chances are they are investing it, in order to grow it, which means the creation of more capital goods which are necessary for economic growth, or lending it to the government. Consumption does not create prosperity.

 

I don't see how someone with 50 million dollars could manage 48 million dollars worth of investments. Come back with a survey of what the rich do with all their money or don't bother responding.

 

Do you think this topic deserves a serious discussion? My goodness. Everyone with an once of common sense would laugh at your stupid signature link.

 

Paragons of government:

Amtrak
TSA
GSA
Postal Service
EPA
100 million Americans on welfare

 

If you wish to discuss this, message me about this. The sooner you leave the better.

 

No. I don't wish to discuss this. And the less nonsense you post, the less people would laugh at you.

 

Don't leave out the Post Office. There is nothing that is made that can't be made more expensive if government does it. If they took over the beer industry a 5 pak would coswt $50 in 6 months and it would taste like crap.

 

You are the one suggesting that it should be stolen from them in order to benefit yourself and you are the one backing that suggestion up with the notion that the money is not being spent or used. I don't need a survey, I know what investment does. Consumption does not lead to prosperity and your plan would destroy the long term economic health of the nation.

 

You're a troll. you have no reason to be rude to people yet you are.

(some posts you've made)

Four pages of investigation.