Why DO we want to fill America with non-whites?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Anyman, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. Rayne

    Rayne New Member

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    After reading a few posts it mildly amuses me that an important topic such as this quickly degenerates into posting pictures of women of various races. It is actually much more preferable that those who seek women of other races move to the nation of those women and not the reverse.

    The argument about Hispanics being classified as Whites. Do any who actually support this believe that a man like this should be classified as "White" on his criminal record? http://s29.postimg.org/tc1jm6ibr/gamboa_inmate_record.jpg
    There are many examples of Hispanics who look African (Brazil's population is around 50% of African descent but they are not open about it, likely due to concerns about driving away tourists), lowering the official statistics about crimes inflicted by blacks because some politically correct moron decided that if a black person came from Brazil, he somehow must be White...

    Most Americans- just as most Westerners- did not want such a thing to happen. There was never a referendum in any European country or country built by Europeans to let this happen. In fact it has taken around fifty years to convince people that this is somehow beneficial for society even though it isn't.

    This chart here is the exact reason why some people of certain races ("ouch, racist!" the morons would say) just need to stay out of the human gene pool:
    http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/

    Even as a half-Asian person, "multiracialism" on a mass scale horrifies me. As for that black actress someone posted when taunting a "racist", I saw her pictures and she does not interest me in the slightest. She does not even have hair atop her head.... prefer someone with hair and an IQ above 60-70, thanks.
     
  2. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    It's perfectly reasonable to group North and South Europeans under a term since they share ancestry. That's just a semantic shift. It's nonsense to group Hispanics with Europeans since they don't share ancestry vis a vis other groups.

    Some people say Souths Euros are not White. It's just semantics and no problem if you define your terms. White these days almost always means European ancestry.
     
  3. After Hours

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    LOL, okay man. You can twist it any way you want, but the fact of the matter is Italians (which includes brown skinned toned Italians who are often darker than your average "Hispanic") were NOT considered white years ago, and today are considered white. In my opinion, it was due to the perceived numbers of the "white" population declining, so what better way to "rectify" that than to start considering groups "white" that you originally did not consider "white".

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    You identify as a "conservative", amirite?
     
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    I'm not twisting anything or disputing that Italians have been considered non-White. Rather than the "fact of the matter" we are discussing your point, which is that Hispanics could be classified with Europeans because, if I can distill your argument, "the meanings of words changes therefore any kind of crazy taxonomy totally divorced from underlying reality is possible". Of course, it isn't. You can extend a category to include adjacent elements. You can't randomly jump across continents ignoring everything in between.
     
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    You do realize "Hispanic" is not a race, right? That a "Hispanic" can be of any race, including the white master race, right?

    And yes, I stand by what I said. In the future, when the "non Hispanic white" population is perceived to be too low, suddenly people WILL start calling groups "white" that they originally didn't consider to be "white". History repeats itself.
     
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    Of course I realise that. That is another obvious reason why "Hispanics" cannot be included as a group in the European race. It's just logically impossible and so will never happen. Will people start calling Negroes "White" to pretend there are more Whites? The Vietnamese? Your suggestion is nonsense.
     
  7. Rayne

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    Why wouldn't Hispanic (technically Latino as Hispanic does not count the people of countries not once controlled by the Spanish) be not counted as a race? The ones of European or African origin are not the entire population and then you have the native "raceless" population. How should they be classified on censuses and criminal records when they are neither European nor African?

    Believing that groups with low IQ's should not be allowed to immigrate- or frankly even exist- is just wishing the best for everyone. You can call it eugenics all you like. Meanwhile, a black Muslim cuts off an elderly Italian female's head in the UK, IS shoots another 250 Syrians, a black person in God knows where- tries to eat a bird that is still alive, probably the UK given there have been news articles about similar incidents from there. And that's just five days into the month.
    The bird eating "incident":
    https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=588922181220073

    Nothing you can say changes the fact that nobody voted for multiculturalism. To me, hating multiculturalism is a small price to pay for all the people who are getting killed by troublesome immigrants.

    I'd argue that people of Asiatic origin are perhaps instinctively conservative or at least instinctively authoritarian. Countries like South Korea or Japan are far too austere and proud to simply allow a large number of people in. Foreigners gaining citizenship in Japan or South Korea is frankly impossible- in both countries, you need to learn their language, and then either be married to a citizen or have worked there for (in the case of Japan I believe 5) years. In South Korea the President can also grant citizenship immediately to a foreigner. Meanwhile in the US you can more or less buy your way in- I believe the same for Canada, fast track to citizenship for wealthy foreigners.

    Mass immigration to me is a sign of too much liberalism. It is what happens when people start to argue "We have no right to say they can't live here" or other garbage. Try saying that in Japan- easily one of the greatest nations in the world with next to no immigration. It is just the West that is full of this kind of talk- a talk that has led to dangerous actions, and a future full of the crimes that I've listed that now happen in our communities when once they could have just happened in Africa where our people would not be harmed by it.

    As I like to say, most men might support liberal views on this issue- that is, until they or their close family/friends end up the victims of crime- and then you will be a "racist" almost without question.
     
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    A genetic study showed that the ancestry of white Hispanics is around 80% European and most Hispanic students I studied with in California looked like Europeans. One Brazilian girl had blue eyes and blond hair similar to the women in the photos above and some white Hispanics are clearly recent immigrants from Northern Europe, while most of them have either Spanish or Portuguese ancestry from the colonial era.
     
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    So why is it not used in place of other IQ tests? If it is obviously so effective, why would people bother with other types of tests?
     
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    You keep saying that is genocide...it's not genocide if it's voluntary. The entire reason genocide is considered a bad thing is because it is forced and often violent.

    No one is making the argument that white people should be sterilized or killed or forced to breed outside their race. "Genocide" in the context you used, is hyperbole.

    There is nothing deliberate or systematic...no one is herding whites into camps to make them breed with non-whites. Any "genocide" in your context would require willing cooperation from white people.

    They might be, yeah.

    Because we don't attack people merely for their belief system. No matter how wrong we think it is. We only attack people that we consider a threat to us or our allies.

    There is no special hate for whites. Only for white racists. White racists are a subgroup of whites.
     
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    You're attacking "White racists" and only "White racists" for their belief system. Why?
     
  12. After Hours

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    Not going to bother getting into any of the rest of your conservative/white nationalist racist propaganda. But I did want to address this. Considering that most times in this country whites have crimes committed against them by other whites (including murder), are you insinuating that whites who are victims of white crime (which is the majority of time) should in fact become racist against other whites? I mean, I'm only using your warped logic here.
     
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    All racists suck. It just happens to be that white racists are the ones who flood political forums looking to spread their racist propaganda, as an attempt to "recruit" as many useful idiots as possible. They pick forums with lots of conservatives on it, because they know they'll find some conservatives sympathetic to their views.
     
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    tens of millions of people who are called "Hispanic", are in fact white people.

    They are descended from Spanish, Italian, German, and other European immigrants, with little to no racial inter-mixing.
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    Yes.

    But because many are not:

    '"Hispanics" cannot be included as a group in the European race'

    Try to read more carefully.
     
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    no, it would be absurd for anyone to suggest that ALL Hispanics are white.

    many are black, mulatto, Native American. Most white Hispanics reside in Puerto Rico, Cuba, Uruguay, Argentina, and parts of Mexico, Columbia, and Venezuela.

    I live in NYC and have met MANY white Hispanics.
     
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    Who said I was only attacking the white racists? I attack all racists.

    White racists get attacked more because of their history in the US, and because they are a majority of racists here. There are a lot more white racists than there are black or asian racists.

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    When did he say he opposed self determination for white people? It was not in what you quoted from him.
     
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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
    I never disputed this.
     
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    white nations have every right to only let in white immigrants.
     
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    Would you support deportations of Jews?
     
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    you want to deport immigrants that were already allowed in here, simply due to their race/ethnicity?

    no, that would be wrong and immoral.

    but a nationl DOES have a right to write immigration policies that seek to maintain its cultural/ethnic majority.


    it would be cruel, inhumane, and undemocratic to kick people out that you already let in, unless they have committed crimes.
     
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    I think a stable future and a good living standard and national happiness are more important than "democracy". Besides, anti-Judaic movements are often fully democratic. I think Jews are cruel and inhumane. I mean the Judaic gang members, not just those with Jewish ancestry. I mean a religion, not a race. Being part of a criminal gang is a crime.
     
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    that's why all Klansmen and Neo-Nazis should be arrested.
     
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    What crimes do Neo-Nazis commit?
     
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    What crimes to Jews commit?
     

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