Why do women kill their own children, unborn or otherwise?

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  1. MisLed

    MisLed New Member

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    I am a human and i am qualified to have an opinion on what i choose. same as you. You can parse this anyway you like to alleviate your guilt about your beliefs. Regardless in this instance i was not judging (which by the way i can and AM allowed to do within the laws of man if not God's). I was responding to the OP.

    Why do YOU allow yourself to be manipulated by the latest feminist and media opinions? Because that is what you are doing? You are playing right into their hands. How do these beliefs of yours benefit you. You tell other to be tolerant, yet you are not tolerant of life.
     
  2. MisLed

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    I am a human and i am qualified to have an opinion on what i choose. same as you. You can parse this anyway you like to alleviate your guilt about your beliefs. Regardless in this instance i was not judging (which by the way i can and AM allowed to do within the laws of man if not God's). I was responding to the OP.

    Why do YOU allow yourself to be manipulated by the latest feminist and media opinions? Because that is what you are doing? You are playing right into their hands. How do these beliefs of yours benefit you. You tell other to be tolerant, yet you are not tolerant of life.

    Some men impregnate and move on because that is what some men do and what women now ALLOW them to do. It's no favor to men...because it keeps them forever immature and shallow. It's no benefit to women who allow it because it makes and keeps them and their children poor and the cycle continues. It is destructive to our society. Family is the basic unit and a strong family serves this country and it's people well. Those that want to destroy the US know this.

    Your war question. Red Herring. It doesn't belong here.

    why do women kill their unborn. convenient, unmarried, stigmatized although that is dissappearing. fear of retaliation from someone, contraceptive. selfish. they might be crazy but that's probably rare. Many reasons. But the worst would be convenience and a form of birth control. I could understand fear/stigamatizism, unmarried. These women need assistance. It's the total and utter lack of concern for life and the idea that abortion is nothing.
     
  3. MisLed

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    what? LoL
     
  4. MisLed

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    actually i now regret participating in this thread because your initial post is incoherent and fantastical.

    so. nevermind.
     
  5. yguy

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    Thank you for your worthless contribution. If you have any more, by all means feel free to offer them up to the worthless people reading other threads than this who will no doubt appreciate them.

    They are either self-evidently true or not. If they are not, the way to demonstrate that is so show why they are false; and if they are true, the only way you will come to realize it is to raise patently substantive objections, which you have not yet done.
    Sue me.
    If you're here to belabor the obvious, you don't belong here.
     
  6. yguy

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    Ladies and germs, this thread is not about whether a fetus is a child, or whether there is a God. If the trash continues to pour in unabated, I'll see if I can get this sucker locked rather than become yet another PF dumpster.
     
  7. Viv

    Viv Banned by Request

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    You haven't established my views, but insist they are misguided and I am open to manipulation. A lot of utter tosh. I don't follow feminist media, latest or historic. I care about women's rights, paternal rights and the rights of unborn children within the context of reality, i.e. it is not possible to prevent women from aborting. It has never been possible.
    I won't bother enlightening you on anything further, no doubt that will be enough to give you a misguided fainting fit as you continue to make whatever you want of the post with no reference to facts.
     
  8. cassandrabandra

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    my opinion is based on life experience.

    when I was young, I thought abortion was wrong.

    life, and finding out the implications of abortion being illegal, has made me understand that only the individual has the right to make that choice.

    I also know, through my work primarily, how difficult the decision to have an abortion is for a woman. especially a young woman.

    And I do not think anyone has the right to judge a woman for making the decision not to continue her pregnancy.

    you on the other hand arre pushing an agenda from a position of arrogance and ignorance.
     
  9. cassandrabandra

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    like the previous poster I responded to you are coming from a position of arrogance and ignorance.

    in the real world, people know what a child is.

    they know that having an abortion is not killing a child, and they know that the reasons a woman makes this decision are hers, and that it is not an easy decision.

    in your hate filled fantasy land, you just want to control what women do.

    what percentage of your income do you contribute to impoverished women bringing up children on their own?

    when you care about children who are already born as much as you do about first trimester foetuses, you might have something worthwhile to cntribute.
     
  10. cassandrabandra

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    if you are not interested in why children are killed, why did you choose this thread title?
     
  11. Unifier

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    I think you hit the nail on the head. In a society where people are becoming increasingly selfish and self-centered, inconvenience is being used to justify a myriad of sick and depraved behaviors. But if you look at the social trends, it's really not that surprising. Today all responsibility is framed as "oppression." So even suggesting that someone should wipe their own ass will get you called Hitler. As a species, we are in the process of devolving back into lower animals. This is ultimately where "progressivism" takes us. A human being with no self-control over his/her sexual impulses is no different from a dog.
     
  12. yguy

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    Lady, if I could have an intelligent conversation with a cockroach that could string words together according to the rules of English grammar, I could probably have an intelligent conversation with you. Things being what they are, I'd rather you just get lost, TIA.

    Thanks, I knew there was intelligent life out there somewhere.
     
  13. cassandrabandra

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    if you are not prepared to discuss intelligently, then perhaps you shouldn;t be introducing threads like this.

    you know that women who are educated, aware and intelligent will respond to what you say, and set the record straight, so what is the purpose of the thread if you don't want to hear what we have to say?
     
  14. yguy

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    One cannot help but wonder what the hell they're waiting for.
     
  15. cassandrabandra

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    thats a bit cryptic. care to elaborate?
     
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    You have never heard of men stomping on, and beating their pregnant girlfriends because they didn't want a child?
     
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    What, that mothers are mean-spirited, lazy, and jealous of their children? That society is going to the dogs, and it's all women's fault?

    Women ARE accepting responsibility for their pregnancies. YOU want the government to step in and make decisions for them, because YOU don't like the decisions women are making.

    Human beings have always had uncontrolled sexual impulses. Read your Bible; there are plenty of examples there.
     
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    I haven't! I think it is a very rare occurrence.
     
  19. yguy

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    Not really. ;)
     
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    Australia must be hyper violent. Glad I don't live there.
     
  21. MisLed

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    as a matter of fact i have heard where men have done this to pregnant girlfriends and sometimes have actually killed them or the baby.
     
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    Well then, they are guilty of a double homicide then aren't they! Also glad to see you admit the child in utero is a "baby".

    Can you show me one example of this behavior in a link?
     
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    Just google "man beats pregnant girlfriend" for many more cases.
     
  24. Unifier

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    Whoa! Easy there. I think you're reading things into my words that I'm not saying. Who said it's all women's fault that the country is going to (*)(*)(*)(*)? It's the fault of the whole culture. It has become toxic, and it now promotes unheathy, irresponsible, and destructive behavior.



    Killing your child is not handling your pregnancy responsibly. I don't know how much more clearly I can state that. If that is not a blatantly obvious "duh!" statement to you, then you have some seriously sick psychological problems. And by "you" I don't mean you personally. I mean whoever. The fact that anyone needs an explanation to understand why it is bad to kill their own children is a very frightening illustration of just how (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up our society today has truly become.

    Handling your pregnancy responsibly means first and foremost not getting pregnant if you don't want kids. And secondly, it means putting on your big girl panties and being a grown woman about it if you do find yourself pregnant. Become responsible, adjust your life, and do what is necessary to give your child the best life you can. Love that child.



    And how did those examples turn out? Did their lack of self-control work in their favor or did it prove to be their undoing?

    This is the point you're missing here. Anything you cannot control is your master, and you are its slave. If you have no control over your sexual impulses, guess what........ they control you. You have no free will because you can't say no.
     
  25. prometeus

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    Really? let me help you then Stat by doing away with the emotional drivel and attempt to stick to facts. For instance The above statement is nothing short of moronic as it implies infanticide and has nothing to do with abortion. Secondly, last I looked no one placed you in charge of declaring what is and what is not responsible.

    Or you, meaning generally those who subscribe to your position, might have serious problems with intelligent debate.
     

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