Why do you not like Trump?

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  1. Capt Nice

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    Well said. I will alter your last sentence: Everything he has done could have been done by any one else better.
     
  2. Daniel Light

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    And for many of the actions he has taken, it will take years to find out the impact. But if you continually pardon everything and anything he does, it's eventually going to bite us all in the ass. His is an ego that needs to be kept in check. Imagine what a great legacy Napoleon could have had if the people around him had said, "NO", every once in awhile.
     
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  3. fmw

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    I hear your opinion but I reject it. His actions make perfect sense to me. His words do not.
     
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    So like I said - everything Trump has done could have been done better by others.
    Both Clinton and Trump were toxic candidates.
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

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    Of the majority of Americans who agree that trump stinks, some might find his abrasive narcissism personally repugnant, some recognize that he is temperamentally unsuitable, and some are appalled by his gross incompetentence. With many, it's a combination of all three.

    Trophy Wife #3 may be finding him loathsome lately.

    Is Trump now about as popular with Trophy Wife #3 as he is with Americans?

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    Melania Trump has been making herself scarce ever since reports that her husband paid $130,000 in hush money to porn actress Stormy Daniels.

    Now, it has been announced that she won’t be accompanying him to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

    Wolf Blitzer pointed out that on the anniversary of Trump’s inauguration, the first lady posted a picture that excluded her husband, nor did she even mention him.

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    Maybe a romantic, candle lit Big Mac attack with “Day Care” Kelly playing a sultry violin?
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  6. dairyair

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    For the most part.
    Many go there with good intentions. The system changes them.
    But mostly, I don't take what is said on campaign trails as truth, for they all say things to get elected.

    Trump OTOH, lies almost daily about something.
    OMG, just found out I was wire tapped, sort of stuff.
     
  7. dairyair

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    I suspect the Jerusalem embassy will be highly targeted. It better be a yuuuggggeeee fortress. Cost us taxpayers millions. And who will want to take up home there?
     
  8. dairyair

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders
    Good post, but your bias clearly shows.
    Obama did not abuse EOs. Nor misuse power. As the link shows.
     
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  9. fmw

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    Perhaps, but not many politicians would have done what Trump has done. I do agree than both candidates were at least challenging if not toxic.
     
  10. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can anyone dislike somebody that can make millions of liberals cry just with 140 characters or less?
     
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    Nothing I love more with my coffee and toast in the morning then a tweet from our president explaining what's going on.
     
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    ...and quantity of EOs means nothing, na-da. Material contained within is all, and Obama did indeed abuse the EO to accomplish quasi-legislative goals that are supposed to be the domain of the legislature. This is why his legacy is so easily reversed, would have been entrenched under HRC while they hoped for a legislative majority. Live by the sword, die by it, and as posted recently, the Democrats will reverse whatever of Trump's EOs that they can one day.
     
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    Name one. As a Republican I was tired of candidates that cowered every time the media said BOO. We wanted a fighter and we got one that doesn't bow to anyone. Limp wristed community organizers or career felons need not apply.
    There were 20 or so candidates Americans could have picked and they picked Trump.
     
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    I have been watching Donald Trump since about the time he redeveloped the old Commodore Hotel in the early 1980's.

    I was impressed at first. The Grand Hyatt deal was gutsy at the time, since there hadn't been a major new building in Mid Town since the mid 1960's.

    Then he started appearing in the gossip columns. And he announced Trump Tower. But that project quickly became mired in a typically Trumpian controversy. It was in the site of the old Bonwit Teller department store. Trump had promised the City that he would perserve the facade. He even boasted about it, Instead, he had it demolised, and destroyed, in public. A typically arrogant, deliberately offensive move, that I would learn is typical of Trump. The behavior of a punk.

    I am in the construction business. I deal with developers often, and have done so throughout my career. There are many types. Trump is one of them. He is the sleazy type. The guy with the trophy wife and the big Mercedes, who spins tales of his "vision", while not delivering to his customers and not paying his bills. I have made a career out of avoiding guys like Trump, and I have seen colleagutual and serial liar is not in question.

    That he has no empathy, no moral fibre, and no integrity is also well supported by the facts of his career and his behavior in the White House.

    He recently ended any remaining speculation over whether his is a racist.

    When I first encountered Trump, I was not aware of the role his father played in his early deals. He would go on to inherit his dad's real estate empire.

    But Trump wanted to be a player in Manhattan, and has spent his whole life trying to escape wannbe status, with no success at all. He is, was, and always will be a cheap parvanu.

    Trump rode the esculator and proclaimed a net worth of 10 Billion dollars. Two months later, he filed a financial disclosure saying it was only $1.8. This year, it is down to $1.4. And this according to his own unaudited claim. The history of Trump from Trump Tower on is a long litany of failed and bad deals, unpaid bills, lies, lawsuits (almost all settled), and a steady dissapation of the family fortune.

    By the early 2000's he was unbankable. No bank in the US would lend on a Trump deal. The guy was bad pay. Enter the Russian gangsters who have propped him up and sustained him ever since.

    Donald Trump is a loser. A schmuck. A man with no class and no breeding, and no brains. An insecure little schoolyard bully with a chip on his shoulder.

    Putting a weak and corrupt little man like him in a position of public trust is suicidal to a democracy and to a great nation.
     
  15. Foolardi

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    I know precisely why some in the MSM don't like Trump.
    Like supposed David Brooks { Conservative at of all places the
    New York Times }.Who was bowled over when meeting Barack Obama
    at a Dinner at George Wills' Chevy Chase residence.Basing the Crease in
    Obama's pants to how serious he must be taken.
    Like the same case couldn't be used for John Gotti.
    Donald Trump does not use the same Lingo as those writing
    at the New York Times or Washington Post.Or even at Bill Kristol's
    - Weekly Standard -. It's partly a jew thing.Donald Trump is as far
    away from appearing Jewish as he does a Male Mermaid.
    Which also explains why Charles Krauthammer didn't like Trump.
    Because Trump isn't a talkie-talk kinda guy.He's a man of action.
    Says what he needs to say and moves on.
    Conversely Obama talked { more like yakety yak yak } in
    fluted tones of togetherness as if a current day Pied piper.
    We now know ... It was The Biggest Carny Barking hoax in Modern
    America.Donald Trump was known far and wide as a Real Estate
    mogul and businessman.Obama,never has much as meet a single
    payroll.Obama was,Literally ... All Mouth.The Press loves wordsmithing
    and rhetoric that can be used in many different ways.
    Trump's rhetoric is plain-spoken to a fault and very understandable.
    He's all about accomplishing something or meeting a deadline.
    Obama was all about hisself and his acquisition of Power based on
    his flapping his jaw.
    I think Trump does need to work on his speeches.His delievery.
    But if all it took was mouth,then why did " Honest Abe " Lincoln
    spend time self-educating and building his own log cabin.
    Because no one on this planet could possibly confuse a Barack
    Obama with an Abraham Lincoln.
    Barack Obama acted more Jewish than Abe Lincoln could have
    even dreampt.
     
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    i hate Trump cause he is a traitor
     
  17. God & Country

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    Oh cry me a river, illegal is illegal. Make exceptions for one group and you've set a precedent, it's and old liberal trick that started with Johnson's Great Society. Back then public assistance was a voucher to help people get back on their feet, strictly temporary assistance. This evolved into a multigenerational cradle to grave all expenses paid trip on the gravy train and to what end? It was to create large numbers of Democrat voters as is all of this phoney baloney humanitarian crap. Do you really think Chuck Schumer gives a rats ass about the DACA crowd? He'd pimp out his mother for a couple of more years in Washington. We need to deport all of the DACA people, deport all illegals build a wall and expand the Border Patrol. I'd like to see the BP become another branch of the armed forces, it would make America safer by stopping illegal entry and choking off drug trafficking.
     
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    except no one else did what he did. They just talk and talk and talk..
     
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    This thread is about trump..not clinton. Please stay on topic.
     
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    All I managed to get out of your incoherent rant is a strong whiff of anti Sematism and an apparant admiration for someone who thinks and speaks like Archie Bunker.

    Comparing Trump to Abe Lincoln is a national insult.
     
  21. MDG045

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    no I’m serious give me evidence. How is he stupid? I want you to prove to me with evidence that he is stupid.
     
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    If you have to ask you lack the capacity to understand.
     
  23. EyesWideOpen

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    so you don't like Trump on a personal level, that's a purely emotional position to take.

    I can argue that 0bama sullied the office of the president, that Obama undermined and damaged our US Constitution, and presided over the expansion of ISIS into a terrorist super power, presided over a failing 2% GDP US economy for eight years. So who cares if a president speaks well, and looks good in a suit, if he is detrimental to the country?
     
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    He doesn't act like an adult.
     
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    http://www.polidiotic.com/by-the-numbers/us-national-debt-by-year/

    Reagan added $1.5 trillion in debt which accounts for 8.4% of all US debt.
    0bama added $7.6 trillion in debt which accounts for 48.8% of all US debt

    You were saying?
     

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