Why do you not like Trump?

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  1. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Degree matters. Mother Teresa is not the moral equivalent of Charles Manson because she once told a lie. Previous presidents kept the lies and flipflops at reasonable levels. And some -- Obama and Clinton come to mind -- barely lied and flipflopped at all.
     
  2. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He surely did abuse E.O.s.

    Obama issued executive orders which instructed his administrative agencies to ignore, to not enforce current immigration law, and suspended deportations of an entire group of illegal aliens.

    Obama himself said he could not do, exactly what he ended up doing:

    Responding in October 2010 to demands that he implement immigration reforms unilaterally, Obama declared, "I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself." In March 2011, he said that with "respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case." In May 2011, he acknowledged that he couldn't "just bypass Congress and change the (immigration) law myself. ... That's not how a democracy works."

    Obama enacted an executive order for his ACA, which violated our Constitution, even the federal courts told him what he was doing was illegal.

    Oklahoma Judge: No Obamacare subsidies through federal insurance marketplace

    The Affordable Care Act suffered a fresh legal setback on Wednesday, when a federal judge in Oklahoma ruled that the federal government could not provide insurance subsidies to customers in states that declined to set up their own marketplaces under the federal health care law.


    D.C. appeals court strikes down ACA insurance subsidies for federal exchanges

    A federal appeals court has ruled the Obama administration cannot subsidize insurance premiums for nearly 7 million Americans, dealing a serious blow to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

    The ruling sets up an almost-certain appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.


    Two judges with the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals in Washington ruled Tuesday that the text of the reform law clearly forbids income-tax subsidies to go to low- and middle-income Americans who use one of the 34 federally run insurance exchanges. The tax subsidies have been flowing since the beginning of the year, based on a 2012 interpretation of the law by the IRS.
     
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  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    What EO on immigration reformed immigration? And how did it reform it?

    States were forced to accept monies they didn't want via an EO on ACA?

    And has any other EOs in history been overturned? You might have 1, obama did.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    A pretty misleading post.
    The 1st prez ever to have debt, had 100% of all the US debt.
    Comparing $$$$ 30 yrs apart, is misleading.

    Reagan increased debt 186% v obama 86%
     
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  5. One Mind

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    I don't care for his personality. I do not hate the man though. I only support him because he is our president, and I agree with what he ran on, some of it, like him being against open borders slave labor globalism which is killing our working people. Also he ran on taking on the neocons, PNAC but has flipped flopped on that. I support his campaign stance on these issues. As well as investing in our infastructure. I think the Wall is a waste of money and you could have solved illegal immigration by changing the penalties for employers hiring them, and giving them a huge fine and a mandatory sentence in a federal prison. And then having enough law enforcement to go after these employers in a most urgent manner. For you will never solve this illegal alien problem until you take the carrots away. Common sense.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what I like most about Trump is he induces leftists to reveal their angry, bitter, irrational, impulsive, childish, scheming, unbalanced, deceitful, violent selves.

    Best reality show on earth.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I live many hours north of the Reagan Library yet managed to drive to it two times. Ronald Reagan is this nations finest all time president. I am totally persuaded.

    Trump get things done and lacks friends skills. I cringe at some of his tweets. I do enjoy his daily presidential reports that show a side of him that the public deserves to see. Trump brags way too much. I last saw where Reagan is resting at the library. The best presidents library I have visited.
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We can't force companies to be the border cops. This has always been a seriously flawed idea. I have an idea. Mine the border and show the Mexicans what happens by setting some of them off ourselves. Fear will hold them off.
     
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    Obama was paying off interest on the 10 trillion in debt left by Reagan, Bush I and II and Clinton.
    You were saying?
     
  10. EyesWideOpen

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    I was saying Obama owns 48.8% of all US debt.
     
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    not like this admin, this admin is the king of alternative facts, they lie about almost everything, even the little stuff, it's crazy
     
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    actually that was Bush's tax cuts for the rich and two 10+ years and a down economy that added that debt
     
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  13. Daniel Light

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    38%. 7.6 trillion is 38% of 20 trillion. Going by your numbers here.
     
  14. EyesWideOpen

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    Yes, yes, yes, of course.... and the sun was in 0bama's eyes, the floor was slippery in places, his shoes were too tight, and when Michelle set out his clothes for him in the morning, she laid out the wrong underwear; the type that creeps up ....and lots of excuses later....

    Yes, 0bama will go down in the record books of history as the first president to serve a four year term, and never see even one year with with an annual GDP growth rate of at least 3%. But wait there's more, 0bama went on to repeat this abysmal economic record for his second four year term.

    Oh, and it was all Boooosh's fault, don't 'cha know.
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not generate those numbers, you know the link.
     
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    You are aware you just publicly admitted that you are a true bigot.



    Guess which American political party is the party of hate and full of bigots and racist who believe that certain races and ethnic groups can't compete in society without being given special protections and privileges (free stuff) ?
     
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    Why not try debt redistribution instead of wealth redistribution ?
     
  18. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    We've done that when we bail out the auto industry, or the oil industry, or the coal industry, or big agriculture ... once again, the money goes mostly to the owners of said industries.
    Oh, and the 48.8% number was an error in mathematics - the debt increase was 38% while Obama was in control.
     

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