Why doesn't college prepare you for the real world?

because theyre big businesses run by liberals and their only goal is to profit.

they dont give a rats ass about whether you are properly trained for life, or not

 

Because colleges today do not teach skills and analytical thinking.

 

I have to agree....I was never outcast or shun for my political beliefs that were still in it's infancy. I also remember having a VERY liberal professor.... I mean.... VERY LIBERAL. and he was my absolute favorite teacher professor I ever had. He was charismatic, but never tried to convert. We'd like to get him fired up about it every once in a while too.

Plenty of liberals at my university, don't get me wrong. In fact, in that class, we had a "I refuse to shave or wash anything" chick in there. Noone shun her either. I didn't want to sit by her because of the smell and sight of her legs and pits being hairier than mine, but I don't recall anyone trying to force political beliefs down anyone's throats within the actual classroom

 

They don't? What exactly do they teach 'nowadays'?

I await your impending melodrama with glee.

 

My opinion is that a lot of education is actually wasted time. The course load on most students is so great that they mostly fail to learn anything except how to get through the process with a degree.

Don't get me wrong, a renaissance education is ideal for a well rounded individual, but it seems like most of the goal of higher education is making money. Funding for programs that keep schools relevant or high prestige are expensive, and the undergraduate body who may not be so high minded end up paying the cost.

We end up with graduates that have made it through the reality of a higher education that is almost completely different than the reality of work.

 

Sure they do...

 

It does. I teaches people to be better learners and that's why the college educated do better in their careers on balance.

 

Colleges these days basically dont give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if they prepare students for the real world. Colleges are huge big money mills. All they care about is that tutition money. They also give leftwing extremist professors a platform to poison the minds of young people.

 

No, they don't.

Most classes show you a problem, and give you the data to solve it.

They DON'T show you how to recognize the problem, account for variables, and apply the modified solution.

 

How in the world would you solve it then?

I mean, sure, there's some college courses that are slack, but, that doesn't apply to all...

 

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

Dean Wormer.

 

advice from your Academy days? i would have thought even an air force dean would be referenced by rank too?

 

It's from animal house.

 

Academy?
I'm not a ring knocker!

Parks College, class of '86


My quote was from "Animal House." Maybe you're too young to remember.

 

nah, i was just messing with ya.

 

exactly. and when they go out into the world they aren't ready.

 

I would disagree. Distance learning can be a valuable asset to one's education, especially with the traditional colleges and universities. Second, colleges and universities like Devry or ITT, these are more for the nontraditional students who have to work, have family AND trying to improve their career. These types of colleges and universities with multiple campuses provide the necessary atmosphere to balance those three things that a traditional univesity will not do, generally.

 

I would disagree. Colleges and universities teach you the who, what, and to what extent, but they do not teach the why. As for skills, you learn that outside the classroom.

 

Differential calculus, econometrics, or an advanced philosophy course.

 

There is a difference between skills and education. Colleges will give you an education that is suppose to help you in obtaining the necessary skills, but many colleges do not go that far.

 

I guess you never took statistics.

 

I was referring more to traditional students. You graduate HS then go to college. THose who haven't entered the real world yet. For people continuing their education who are already out there, obviously they have different priorities. I agree with you in those examples. Living at home and commuting to school just doesn't offer the same sort of college experience. Its different but not ideal. Its more like H.S. 2.0. You lose a big part of what college is for. Learning to grow up and be independent. Obviously those from rough childhoods, might have been forced to be independent earlier on. But then, they're not the traditional student.

 

I think that the real problem is that very few programs are fully integrated. The students normally take a disjointed collection of classes with the expectation that at some point they can tie all of them into something useful.

In the real world you have to use a variety of skills and knowledge all day long. These include public speaking, written communications, small group collaboration, organizing, delegating, reporting.

So suppose you are going to school to get a degree in financial management. Don't you think it would be more useful if you had just one fully integrated class where you did all of those things instead of taking five disjointed classes?

In the integrated class you would be given several problems in which you would have to not only solve them but also demonstrate public speaking, written communication, and team working. The class could last anywhere from four to eight hours per day. You could even have different Instructors handing out different parts of the assignments. That seems more practical and useful to me than the current system.

 

why should it, when people insist on taking out large debts to pay ever increasing tuitions as is ?