Why doesn't the RNC evict Trump from the GOP?

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  1. Polydectes

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    The most popular Republican ever? They probably don't invent because they're not stupid.
     
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    That's a good question. Why should they?
     
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    Okay, being convicted of a crime is a good objective standard. Unfortunately, he hasn't been convicted of a crime yet. The RNC cannot/should-not boot him because they don't like him or because there are bad news articles about him that make claims about him committing crimes.
     
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    Where is this "mob" you speak of? Please tell me you have more examples than January 6th
     
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    Well, the RNC has Trump and the DNC has Sharpton.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    To put country above party, perhaps?
     
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    Democrats don't do that. Hell, they just voted an election denier to be Speaker of the House. Party before country.
     
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    He was listed as unindicted co conspirator in a campaign finance felony.

    In prior years, that plus the ***** grabbing tape, would have been enough to end his campaign, or forced to resign by the party.

    Hell, I recall when Gary Hart's campaign was ended just because a woman not his wife stayed overnight at his home, and no proof they had an actual affair, a plight which seems like nothing compared to Trump's ordeals with Stormy and the playmate.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Right wing hypocrisy, Democrats often criticize the legitimacy of any president who wasn't elected by the popular vote, given that we believe that for a job as important as that of President of The United States, should require the support of the majority. But, that does not mean we will contest the certification of the president if a president does not win the popular vote and only wins the electoral college, which is the decisive factor in who is the president, which Hillary, nor Hakeem Jeffries, did, in fact, recognize. In fact, Hakeem Jeffries attended Trump's inauguration, and tried hard, as congressman, to reach across the isle and work with Republicans during his Presidency.. Our use of illegitimate is rhetorical sentiment, not an argument forwarded in the manner and fashion that Trump has levied against Biden..

    What Jeffries, nor Hillary, nor any other democrat did, that Trump did, was declare that the opposition cannot win unless they rig the election before any ballot was ever cast, and repeat it every rally held, up until the election, and participate in an 8 pronged scheme, involving fake electors, considerations of confiscating voting machines, pressuring state's officials to cast aside state's votes and replace electors with Trump's electors, pressure the VP to unconstitutionally and unilaterally remand contested votes during the joint session back to the states in a scheme to disregard the will of the people and throw the vote for president to the house, etc, etc., etc. NO democrat ever did this, only Trump did this, but, do you care? It doesn't appear that you do.
     
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    Trump dares Republicans (again) to repudiate him

    Former president Donald Trump was obviously never going to promote his campaign for a second term by hitting cable TV to sell an insipid book about the modest glory of public service or meaningful past commanders in chief, or anything bordering on the traditional.

    But this is a lot, even for him: In the not-quite-month since he announced his candidacy in 2024, Trump has welcomed antisemites and Nazi sympathizers Kanye West and Nick Fuentes to his Mar-a-Lago resort and residence and this weekend called for the Constitution’s “termination.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...mail&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_daily202

    The dinner was bad enough. He may get his wish over the comments about the Constitution. You know...........cuz Repubs are the party that reveres it...........;)
     
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    Democrats voted an election denier to Speaker of the House.
     
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    So you're saying that Republicans want insurrectionists, fascists and neo-Nazis in their party, and to terminate the Constitution?

    I am shocked!
     
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    I think there's is a better descriptive then shocked!
     
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    You mean "revolted"? Yeah! I think that's a bit more appropriate...
     
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    His base. "It's all about the base, the base..".

    He can splinter off his core sycophants and destroy the RP. Mind you, he might be doing most moderate left and right people a favor (for the sake of commentary, lets call them the independents) in the long run since they can become a dominant middle party.
     
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    Because elections are very expensive and trump has the opposition working hard for him free of charge. If a piece of tissue gets stuck to his shoe, there's a thread about it!!!
     
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    Ok, but not what I was thinking!
     
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    Based on what precedent?
     
  19. Bullseye

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    Look closer Joe. Most GOPers are slowly distancing themselves from Trump. It's more than 700 days until the next election - a lot can, and will happen before then.
     
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    Many Republican leaders realize Trump is an albatross around their necks. They realize the Republican Party is still the smaller of the two major parties, hence they must win the independent vote for lose the election. They also realize Independents don’t like Trump and they didn’t like his chosen candidates. Most went down to defeat while non-Trump chosen Republican candidates won. They’re not going to win independents over with Trump still the leader and face of the GOP. Their problem is around 45-50% of the Republican base are still avid Trumpers.

    Even so, many Republican leaders realize they must ditch Trump in order to win elections. Now is the time to ditch him. Sever all ties. The election is over, it’s 2 more years until the next one. Trumpers and his avid Trumper followers can’t primary anyone out now. Their jobs and elected offices are about as safe and secure as they’re going to be. If the Republican Party and its leaders want to win elections, it’s time to act now. Anytime later may be too late. Let the avid Trumpers get mad as Hades at them, Trump followers have 2 years to get over it and come back and vote Republican in 2024. Placating avid Trumpers now will only make it harder to get rid of Trump later. Ceding to them now will most certainly mean winning in 2024 will be almost impossible. The Republican Party needs someone that is able to attract independents, Trump can’t, won’t, independents dislike him too much.
     
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    Hmm, did you know non-Trump chosen candidates in states where comparisons were possible, they ran 10 point higher than Trump chosen candidates. Some examples, Trump enemy Kemp in Georgia finished 8 points higher than Trump chosen Walker. In New Hampshire, non-Trump chosen Sununu finished 13 points higher than Trump chosen Bolduc, in Ohio, non-Trump chosen DeWine finished 9 points higher than Trump chosen Vance, although Vance did pull out a win. Murkowski a Trump enemy won over Trump endorsed Tshibaka in Alaska and the list goes on.

    As for RINO’s, Trump is the original RINO. He’s doesn’t have a political ideology of his own. The 7-time party switcher has adopted whatever political ideology of the party he belonged to at the time. Trump is loyal only to himself and doesn’t give a cat’s meow about the Republican Party or the real conservative ideology. Trump is personally responsible for destroying the possible red wave election this year and turning it into a red trickle. His chosen candidates like Bolduc, Masters, Lake, Laxalt, Walker, Oz, Mastriano, Cox, Diehl, Tshibaka, Dixon and others all lost.


    The reason, the Republican Party is still the smaller of the two major parties, hence, they must win the independent vote for lose the election. Independents don’t like Trump much and 2022 proved they don’t like his chosen candidates either. Independents gave Trump a 38% favorable vs. 58% unfavorable. Trump can’t attract independents to vote for him or for his chosen candidates as 2022 proved. The Republican Party’s very poor performance this midterms lies directly on Trump’s shoulders.
     
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    Senate GOP leaders turn on Trump over suspend-the-Constitution talk

    Top Senate Republicans are distancing themselves from Donald Trump in growing numbers after the former president’s call to suspend the Constitution — though there’s no sign it will lead them to actively oppose his 2024 presidential campaign.

    In his latest of an ongoing series of calls to be reinstated as president, Trump on Saturday falsely cited “massive fraud” in his 2020 loss to President Joe Biden before calling for a “termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution” in order to reinstate him as president or hold a new election. Many election officials, including Trump’s own former attorney general, Bill Barr, have affirmed that no voter fraud occurred on a scale significant enough to affect Biden’s victory over Trump.

    While few Republicans spoke out publicly before returning to Washington on Monday, Senate Minority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) said “of course I disagree with that” when asked about Trump’s comments. The No. 2 Senate Republican would not say whether he’d support Trump if the former president wins the GOP nomination in 2024 and said he’s “just not going to go there at this point — that’s a long way off.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/05/senate-republicans-trump-suspending-constitution-00072265

    Not exactly the kind of rebuke that's called for. But then, this is the Orange Messiah we're talking about so as always it's largely hands off.
     
  23. Patricio Da Silva

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    Please reread the comment to which you have repeated your comment in reply, until epiphany is reached.
     
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    Well, when a demagogue is running for president, noting that he won one before, and can do it again, it would behoove everyone to play very close attention to all of his moves, even when toilet sticks to his shoes. With a little luck, he will trip and............nevermind.
     
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    Moral turpitude.

    And, btw, because of your incorrect use of quote tags, the rest of your post disappeared in my reply. No doubt it was bogus, anyway.
     
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