Why Finland has the best schools

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  1. tom444

    tom444 Well-Known Member

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    So therefore black children should be stressed into learning?
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Well that's weird You claim you were born June 2 1945 in your profile! Might want to take a power nap before all the cats get out of the bag :)
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/03/average-teacher-salary-around-world_n_4037534.html

    Incorrect.
     
  4. tom444

    tom444 Well-Known Member

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    What?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stressed into learning?
     
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    tom444 Well-Known Member

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    I was in born 1944. I never put down an accurate birth date on a profile. Why would you?
     
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    tom444 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, stressed into learning. That's the problem here. The Fins are reducing the stress.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Incorrect.

    Perfect example of why we need to change our culture.
     
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    Duh. The tests and the scoring and the implications/use changed.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol.

    The Japanese put far more stress on their students than the US, and out perform perform. Explain that?
     
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    I was taking standardized tests in school from.the mid 80's through the late 90s. Long before Bush.
     
  12. tom444

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    Incorrect. Change the system first. Let kids learn, and the culture will follow.
     
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    Wow you just happen to rough in the birth date and get the AGE spot on too :) You do realize you're blowing it, right :)
     
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    No argument, but it's much easier to change a system for the ones that want a good education.
     
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    tom444 Well-Known Member

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    Lol, do you know anything about the damage the stress of Japans learning system has on their kids?
     
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    What on earth are you talking about?

    This is part of the article, "My son was out there somewhere, but the children were so buried in winter clothes and moving so fast that I couldn't spot him." ha ha, I didn't write that.
     
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    Ah I get it, now! I honestly thought you had some r/l examples, didn't realize you're posting as a surrogate for the person in the article :) But the birth dates are still in play :)
     
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  18. tom444

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    When your posting with someone who doesn't know the difference between an article, and what the poster himself posts, nothing is in play.
     
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    I was responding to your comment. Not anyone elses.
     
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    tom444 Well-Known Member

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    No, you were responding to my questions that were a response to his post. I made no comment.
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Well to be honest, I tried to take the link a couple of times but after being bombarded with popups I took the post at face value and started snooping around ;) So what is it 44/45, 72/73?
     
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    JAPAN'S SCHOOLS STRESS GROUP AND DISCOURAGE INDIVIDUALITY
    BY EDWARD B. FISKE, Special to the New York Times
    Published: July 11, 1983

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    HACHIOJI, Japan— Tomiko Yusa was teaching a lesson in negative numbers one day recently to her seventh grade mathematics class at the Uchikoshi Junior High School here, and she called on a student seated near the window to solve a problem on the blackboard.

    The 13-year-old girl stood beside her desk staring at the floor, obviously at a loss to understand the problem. She tried a couple of guesses, then fell silent. Finally the teacher allowed her to sit down.

    In an American school, the student would probably have been placed in a slower class where she could work alongside students of comparable ability. In Japan, however, there is no such thing as ''tracking.''

    All Students Taught Together

    The social cost of a student's being removed from her peers is viewed as far greater than the frustration of sitting day after day in a class where the pupil does not understand what is going on. So until high school, all students, from the slow to the gifted, are taught together.

    The incident is indicative of how schools here are inextricably tied to distinctly Japanese values such as the primacy of the group rather than the individual. A month of observing Japanese classrooms and speaking with students, teachers, parents and others reveals how much these values and others such as ritual, status and order differ from those that characterize American public schools. Saturday Morning Classes...............

    http://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/11/w...-discourage-individuality.html?pagewanted=all
     
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  23. US Conservative

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    The Danes are on to something as well. Wish American lefties didn't want to turn children into zombies, and simply provide day care for the zombie parents.
     
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    Love it.
     
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    THAT is exactly what little kids need. Teaches them so many things.
     

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