Why go on... and on about it...

I haven't noticed, but I don't think you go on and on... in a derogatory way about homosexuals... so you are not in the closet.

I'm pinning this on those who overreact and go on and on in a derogatory way to gays. I haven't seen you doing that to gays. Only to Michelle Obama. So maybe you are in the closet about her, lol.

 

Do you consider that being derogatory to gays is a slander? Or just a slander to call someone a homophobe?

 

Gotta go, my closet is calling, lol...

 

I find your fast conspiracy theories amusing. They are never based on reality, they are always a far flung attempt to justify whatever your ill founded beliefs are at the moment.

 

I quite honestly don't care who marries who. It does not impact me in any way what so ever.

 

I know that aggressively pro homosexual people often use this as a tactic to attempt to stifle anti homosexual people, however, I don't believe the allegation stands up under scrutiny.

Simply looking at the history in just North America would prove that.

Take the 1920s or 1930s or 1940s etc, doesn't really matter, and look at how homosexuality was reacted to.

Say (made up number here) there were 100,000 public schools in America, with 25 kids (made up number here) per classroom, per grade level.

Now, homosexuals were physically and verbally attacked/ridiculed/ostracized by both the boys and the girls, and more than likely the teachers and the parents.

This, is clearly much more than a message board forum poster, who is anti homosexual.

Your premise would mean that all those children, teachers and parents were latent homosexuals (since they did so much more than just type), so, unless you are prepared to defend a position that eveyone is technically a homosexual, then I think it is simply a silencing tactical approach by aggressive pro homosexuality persons.

 

It sucks to watch friends and family deal with bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that I don't have to because of bigots. I think that an injustice to one is an injustice too all. So, no, just because I support gay rights, that doesn't make me gay, and more than supporting affirmative action makes me non-white. The fact that I support treaty rights for First Nations is just co-incidental to having some aboriginal ancestry(, which is hardly remarkable fr any North American with more than 125 years of ancestry here).

Irration hatred of groups is a completely different beast.

 

Because she's America's First Lady and I'm an American. Why are YOU so obsessed with her when she's nothing to you?

 

I'm one of those people who defends gays and is straight and the reason I do it is because I'm also black and realise the very struggles I went through as a child being called every name under the sun, followed around shops as I was "obviously" a thief, stereotyped and ridiculed by "comedians" on the television etc. It was even worse for my parent's and grand-parent's generation.

I've had my eyes opened by living in a gay "village" and having made a number of gay friends.

When I hear the ridicule and animus directed at gays I understand that it's the same lyric, different tune. The type of people that continually rail against gays are the exact same people who would rail against anyone regardless of sex, sexual orientation, religion or ethnicity as long as they thought they could get away with it.

They just want to feel "better" than somebody else without having to lift a finger to do anything about it.

(and yes some are closet gays...)

 

My gay family member has full-blown AIDS... but I guess we don't wanna go there, do we? Much more pleasant to pretend male-on-male sex isn't the leading transmittor of AIDS, huh?

 

From an interview with a local social worker who specializes in AIDS cases:

Yeah, head-in-the-sand routine only goes so far. Sooner or later, you have to look at the big picture.

 

Check out this conspiracy theory from the CDC. It's definitely pretty far flung:

AIDS kills. An ugly, lingering, horrific way to die. Ask anybody who has it.

 

I am a gay 26 year old male, I have been with my partner for close to two years now not to ment the number of gay men and women I know that have been with their partners from 4 - 15 years. All monogamous to my knowledge; do you think it is fair to punish all of us because of the shortcomings of others?

You do not get to deprive people of their rights because some people that identify with them are stupid. Whores are whores and there are stupid/ignorant people in every classification of people on Earth.

Aids is a huge problem but I do not see how telling gay men and women that their relationship is not worth anything will decrease the rates, if anything they may exacerbate it.

 

Congrats on being the exception. MOST gay men are extremely promiscuous. Last stats I heard 80% of gay men have multiple partners even while they're in committed relationships.

I'd like to see more young gay men keep the issue of AIDS prevention alive in their communities instead of sweeping it under the rug. You have young brothers coming up who have no clue the horrors of AIDS still exists because it's so unpleasant to talk about it, nobody does anymore.

 

What difference does any of this make? Gay people are still going to be gay aren't they?

 

Might make a huge difference... to a young gay man reading this thread. You never know, but one thing we all know for sure -- no young gay man reading a thread on gay marriage is likely to think, "Wow. I need to be careful."

Statistically speaking, "Wow. They need to be careful!"

Disagree with that message, do ya?

 

Of course not, I just don't see how it relates to the thread topic. Demonizing gays isn't going to make them any less gay and I don't think it's going to help anybody's self-esteem or concept of self-worth.

Advising people of the truth is admirable, using it as a weapon to beat them into submission isn't.

I've met a lot of gay kids 16+ and the ones that have the worst time are often from families where all they hear is anti-gay vitriol. They are the ones who end up living on the street and taking drugs because they're afraid to go home. Those that are out and living with accepting families have much fewer problems because they have a sense of self-worth and see a future for themselves.

I don't disagree that facts be made available dispassionately, I disagree with people who make all kind of outrageous statements and even those who make a fat living out of stoking the fear of difference.

 

Interesting you're accusing me of

demonizing gays
harming their self-esteem or concept of self-worth
beating them into submission
making outrageous statements
making a fat living out of stoking the fear of difference

Just because I brought up AIDS. See how touchy the subject is? Can't even mention it on a thread about gays without being accused of homophobia.

The non-stop drama is amazing.

 

^^^ Must remember to start thread: "Why do people vilify homosexuals over AIDS and go on about it repeatedly in a derogatory way?"

Lack of compassion will sink this world....

 

By your logic, I should mention heterosexual men raping women and kids on any thread featuring heterosexuals people... because some heterosexual men rape women and kids.

No one should get touchy about that. Why would they? Probably should be discussed everytime heterosexuals are mentioned...

 

it isn't. the leading transmitor of aids is unprotected sex with an infected partner. makes no difference if you're gay or straight.


oh, and the majority of aids cases worldwide are among heterosexuals.

 

I wasn't "accusing you" I was referring to the debate question.

The non-stop drama is indeed amazing...............

 

In response to them constantly dwelling of their demands of tax breaks and governmental entitlements as a reward for their lifestyle and demands that children be taught about their lifestyle, while prohibiting by law any information that might reflect badly upon them.

 

Things certainly aren't as you state above; though many feel as you do.

 

So then why all the demands for legal benefits based upon sexuality.