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Why is Biden not impeached?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by I justsayin, Dec 13, 2021.

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    I didn’t ask you for your opinion or permission to call Joe’s boast blackmail… Joe’s boast was blackmail
    Joe told them to check with Obama… so Joe indicated Obama would back him in the blackmail.
    Try to keep up.
     
    popscott, Dec 13, 2021
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    Except that isn't blackmail. He never asked for personal favor, unlike Trump. According to your "logic," all negotiation on the part of the United States is "blackmail." Total insanity.
     
    yardmeat, Dec 13, 2021
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope... plain ole blackmail.. you can not spin it any other way... and Joe was using taxpayer money to do it.
     
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    Requires Congress to impeach. They are lap dogs.
     
    Polydectes, Dec 13, 2021
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    Only for those who don't know what the word "blackmail" means. Negotiation on behalf of national interests isn't blackmail. Withholding funds to hold out for a personal favor is.
     
    yardmeat, Dec 13, 2021
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    There was nothing in Joe's action or boast that could be construed as "Negotiation".
     
    popscott, Dec 13, 2021
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    Except that's exactly what it was: our country will do the things your country wants out country to do if your country does what our country wants your country to do. There's nothing "blackmail" about that.
     
    yardmeat, Dec 13, 2021
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    It is blackmail and it is not US policy.
     
    popscott, Dec 13, 2021
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    It was, absolutely, US policy. And he asked for no personal favors. Trump did. While withholding the fund the country had approved. These are facts. No matter how inconvenient they are for your partisanship.
     
    yardmeat, Dec 13, 2021
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    Links please to the US policy used in Biden's boast.
     
    popscott, Dec 13, 2021
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    Impeachment is political by design.
     
    Aristotle66, Dec 13, 2021
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    To a degree, yes, but, in theory, there should be an element of actual criminality, such as Clinton being impeached for perjury. Democrats used impeachment purely for political purposes, which is unprecedented. The first time they impeached Trump was in 2019, during the presidential election. Although knowing that they would never get a conviction, they did not care: impeachment was used a tool to help Democrats in the upcoming 2020 elections, not just presidential but congressional, too; the fundamental aim was not in removing Trump from office. The second impeachment was even more groundless and more political than the first; they wanted to stain his legacy with being the only president to be impeached twice; they did not care about actual criminality; it was pure politics.
     
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    Trump was properly impeached twice. In fact, he should have been impeached immediately after Mueller released his report.
     
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    Clinton was impeached for a blow job. Clearly what the Founders intended.
     
    Aristotle66, Dec 13, 2021
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    But he was not impeached after the Mueller report, because there was no collusion between Trump and Russia. Pretextually, it would have made more sense to impeach Trump over the Mueller report, but the Mueller report came out after the 2018 election results, so impeaching Trump would not have longstanding effect for 2020, if they did it at the tail-end of 2018.
     
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    Impeachment is just virtue signalling, and the people that care about Biden's corruption don't care about virtue signalling.
     
    modernpaladin, Dec 14, 2021
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    Did you know Mueller was never investigating collusion?"
     
    Aristotle66, Dec 14, 2021
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    That characterization is false.

    You'll need evidence to back up that claim.
     
    Patricio Da Silva, Dec 14, 2021
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    Clinton was impeached for perjury, a felony.
     
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    :deadhorse:
     
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    The number one reason Biden and his whole administration should be impeached with a full investigation by a special counsel....


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    popscott, Dec 14, 2021
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    You keep repeating this "personal favor" and "withholding of funds" where neither event happened. It would probably be better to stick to actual facts.
     
    Bow To The Robots, Dec 14, 2021
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    He did withhold the funds. The WH admitted to this. Publicly. And when you tell someone to talk to your PERSONAL lawyer about a matter that your PERSONAL lawyer has publicly stated is for your PERSONAL interests, rather than the nation's, then yes, it is PERSONAL.
     
    yardmeat, Dec 14, 2021
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