Why is black psuedoscience allowed to be preached in US colleges

Once again, I need to inform you of the fact that you are posing your thread topic in the form of a leading question.


Let us go over this again = you must or at least attempt to be neutral in your topic. Then you may post your view and back it up with substantive proof of your claim.


Please re-word your topic, take a position, then proceed to defend your thesis.

 

A baseless claim. Columbus was the navigator in all his voyages. An extensive journal means exactly what?

 

she was part Macedonian but in her time was portrayed as Negroid:








don't know why this topic is brought up so often but historically it is an issue that was settled long ago

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/history-past-politicians/207553-vikings-east-normans.html

Vikings in the East.

In 1492, Christopher Columbus set sail on three small ships from Spain with a Muslim navigator, an Arab translator, maps, and equipment. His goal was to sail across the Atlantic and reach China and India.

Muslim Navigators

Ibn BattutaIbn Battuta (1305 - 1369?) was perhaps the greatest traveler of the Middle Ages, having traveled about 75,000 miles in 29 years! He is especially important to history because of his written reports of his travels. From these records we can learn about the cultures that he visited. The book about his travels is the only historical source of information about many of the places he visited which included the East African coast, the Empire of Mali in West Africa, Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, India, China, Spain, and many, many more. As a Muslim, he took advantage of the generosity shown to pilgrims and travelers in the Empire. He was often given gifts (of horses, gold, and even slaves) and stayed for free in dormitories, private homes, and even in the palaces of Muslim rulers. For seven years he worked for the Sultan in Delhi, India. On his travels he met several Sultans who welcomed him into their company. His descriptions are filled with adventures and stories.

Leo Africanus (Hasan a-Wazan) was a traveler and mapmaker who lived from 1485-1554. He was captured by Christian pirates and presented to the Pope as a slave. He later was commissioned to write about and make maps of his travels in West Africa. His description of Timbuktu (now in the country of Mali) tells of the city famous for trade of African products and for scholarship with a thriving trade in books. (source:"Leo Africanus: Description of Timbuktu" Washington State University.)

 

Simply not true, Columbus WAS the navigator pure and simple. All writings and definitive works on all 4 of his voyages clearly document this. All sailers would have been Christian by design and a Muslim would not have been allowed because of the nature of the voyage. An interpreter of Arabic would not have been difficult and would not necessarily have been Muslim.
A traveler is NOT a navigator.

 

Look ...The Arabs and Jews were kicked out of Spain in 1492 and a lot happened in a short span of years after that.

The Sugar Jews who had gone to Amsterdam signed on in Recif, Brazil and both Jews and Muslims from the Iberian peninsula were on the move.

The archives in Holland and in Brazil provide all the documentation anyone could possibly want.. Did you read Vikings in the East?

Have you read the travel journal of Ibn Battuta.. or even the one by Rabbi Benjamin Tudlea?

 

No, but I've read about the 4 voyages of Columbus. No Muslims. It is beyond dispute that Columbus was the navigator and the rest of your babble is meaningless. It's also beyond dispute the nautical navigation is Western European in origin.

 

Yes Columbus was a navigator and Muslims were among his crew... He thought he was headed for the Indies.. and Muslims had been trading with the Indus Valley, Mesopotamia, Egypt and East Africa for 3 thousand years.

 

Opposite direction sweetheart. No Muslims. BTW Muslim's didn't exist for 3000 years. You're living in a fantasy.

 

Arabs existed....... by 1000 AD there were plenty of Muslims..

Arabs traded with the Indus Valley, Babylon, Egypt and East Africa long before Islam.

 

Curious, what business is of your what is going on in the US?

 

You've now changed the narrative. Desert does not equal sea based travel. Muslim does not equal Arab. Get your story straight.

 

are you questioning the Muslim contribution to science?

 

Very much so. Muslim achievement is largely from subjugated non-Muslims. For instance there is little innovation or achievement in nautical issues except for piracy, something they still engage in.

 

Cleopatra was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, a family of Macedonian Greek[3] origin that ruled Egypt after Alexander the Great's death during the Hellenistic period. The Ptolemies, throughout their dynasty, spoke Greek[4] and refused to speak Egyptian, which is the reason that Greek as well as Egyptian languages were used on official court documents such as the Rosetta Stone.[5] By contrast, Cleopatra did learn to speak Egyptian[6] and represented herself as the reincarnation of an Egyptian goddess, Isis.

Cleopatra was Greek.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics_in_medieval_Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_art

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_architecture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophthalmology_in_medieval_Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_science_and_engineering_in_the_Islamic_world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age#Science



looks like you have no idea what you're talking about

 

Try explaining that to history revisionists. We've explained that including the Cleo was probably the first Ptolemy to even speak Egyptian. Once again we have a prime example of why liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

 

There's lot to suggest the Muslim didn't invent much but borrowed quite a bit and took credit for it. Case in point the numeric system whose true origin is from India. There's much much more. BTW wiki is not a credible reference. Get beyond the 3rd grade when you attempt to get something credible.

 

Cleopatra's father was a man of Greek/Macedonian descent but her mother was a sub-Saharan African. Archaeologists discovered that her sister Arsinoe had an African mother and she was half Greek/half Nubian as a result. Cleopatra was also half black and she had dark skin with European facial features, which is typical of mixed-race people. It's natural for the Greek family which ruled Egypt for generations to take native African wives from time to time and Cleopatra inherited both Greek and African genetic elements from her ancestors.

 

all of these articles have non-Wiki sources.

can you disprove them all?

your denial of Muslim contributions to science, is silly and most likely bigoted.

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Cleopatra's mom was not African.

this was her:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra_V_of_Egypt

 

Hardly but we can also get into architecture where the Muslims didn't much and used concrete, something the Romans used in great quantity way before there were any Muslims. The list gets rather long Ron.

 

your rebuttals are short and unthorough.

but continue to deny the facts, if you like

 

There's just too much there Ron and I'm not up to it tonight. I'm looking at the eclipse and you're looking at concrete.

 

I know more about concrete than you do.

 

You should you're surrounded by it.