Why is it bad the "Mainstream Media" went after Trump?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

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    I gave the link to their methodology. It's right there, all you have to do is read it.

    I gave you the facts according to their own methodology.

    It is you who are giving opinions.

    The only thing in this equation that IS baseless is you accusation that my opinion is baseless.
     
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    Totalitarianism begins with ignorant fear and paranoia, creating a fake enemy for a messianic strong man like Trump to come along and "save" people from.
     
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    Not only where they want me but also where I want me. :)
     
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    Baloney. Totalitarian politicians are not the targets of political witch hunts. The still thinking left never confuse Trump with a totalitarian politician.

    THE NEW REPUBLIC, The Democrats’ Dangerous Obsession With Impeachment, The party needs to focus on winning elections, not removing Trump., BY JEET HEER, December 5, 2017.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/146098/democrats-dangerous-obsession-impeachment
     
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    It isn't a matter of distinguishing anything. Either it is accurate and newsworthy or it isn't. Most people can tell the difference.
     
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    It’s odd some people will put such stock in polling results. And we wonder why so many still believe the election was stolen.
     
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    Yes, that is the job of the media. Too bad they are almost completely one sided when doing it. Leftist media, which involves most media outlets, go after Republican government officials, while those on the right (which is few and far between) go after the left side. How they phrase things is also an indicator of whether they are being fair or partisan. What they choose to report or not report is also an indicator.

    For instance what your post fails to take into account is how CNN, MSNBC, ABC et al did their reporting on Hillary. Yes, they reported on it. While mostly covering for her by the phrasing that they used.

    Another example I could give is in how they hammered Trump for his planes during the civil war (or was it revolutionary war? can't remember exactly) comment (he certainly deserved mocking for it). Yet pretty much ignore or defend Biden when he can't even remember personal things.
     
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    I don't agree than Dems are fascist even though they use media as a tool.
     
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    Twitter should have banned atrump when he was the vocal head of the Birther movement as he was increasing the threat to Obama by delegitimising Obama’s presidency and fanning the flames even then of racism
     
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    As opposed to Faux news? A channel bowing and scraping to one man and his opinion?
     
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    Questioning a persons birth place has nothing to do with race. McCain for instance was questioned by leftist media as not being an American when he ran for President because he was born in Panama. Congress even voted to decide if he should be considered as an American or not.
     
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    1: You should read the whole post before responding instead of jumping to conclusions. As I stated... "while those on the right (which is few and far between) go after the left side", such a comment would obviously include Fox News.
    2: Fox news reports on Trump were around 54% negative. Might want to reconsider what you consider "bowing and scraping".

    Want to try with the partisanship some more?
     
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    /thread. That wasn't accountability, it was propaganda. The 6th was just finally the realization of all of their dreams(or rather, an incomplete realization but the closest they'll ever get.). But said propaganda led the way for the 6th to happen. Is Trump qualified to be a POTUS? Well that depends on the qualification via the policies which would protect our borders, promote our natural gas, etc. Those are things that are worthy of support. But the loose emotional cannon, and having urged the crowd on their protest long after the election claims had been disproven are things that aren't worthy.
     
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    How long did the questioning last with McCain? How long with Obama?
     
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    Trump has ALWAYS loved publicity. He even stated in his book 'Art of the Deal' that there is no such thing as bad publicity. He just wasn't counting on the kind he got.
     
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    Well, there you go again. "according to polling by the Heartland Institute, a conservative think tank" ... "Heartland found in the polling, which Rasmussen Reports conducted". SO! Heartland interpreted Rasmussens survey and came up the conclusions you want to make sacrosanct. LOL!!!!!!! Sorry Charlie/ Bronco.
     
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    “It is a newspaper's duty to print the news and raise hell. Wilbur Storey”

    ― Harold Holzer, Lincoln and the Power of the Press: The War for Public Opinion
     
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    The problem is all the lies they reported under the guise of 'unnamed sources.' Sure its bound to happen now and then, but the frequency of it regarding Trump was blatantly purposeful. At the very least, the press would publish any BS anyone told them with zero checking into see if it was legit, even after it turned out be false again and again. More likely, much of it was completely made up and the 'anonymous sources' didnt even exist.

    And of course the corrections and retractions never get anywhere near the exposure as the lie does.
     
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    So how do they do it then? How do they distinguish between different ideas.

    So in other words, you don’t like the media because they’re being one sided. But Trump was corrupt. He did a lot of corrupt things. Those little stories you mention help feed into the narrative which makes it easier to believe when Trump committed the bigger crimes. If it’s the job of the media to hold the government accountable, perhaps what you’re upset at isn’t the media but instead that light is being drawn on corrupt officials. How do you know it’s not that instead?

    Yeah twitter is responsible for a lot of damage done to the US and they will probably end up paying the price for it one day.
     
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    Prove it. I want you to prove that claim.
     
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    Two points.
    1. modernpaladin is making a quantitative claim, that is a qualitative response.
    2. That's not really proving anything meaningful. We know Trump's administration was notorious for leaks as people kept trying to make each other look bad. So it makes sense that they would say bad things about Trump. And even then that doesn't really get at the core issue. Anonymous sources can be fine to use, you just have to obey certain rules with them. Like double check what the anonymous claim is with other facts on the ground that you can access. Anything short of that then the media has to report the sources are anonymous (which the original Atlantic article did do).
     
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    It would be nice if they went after Biden. It would be nice if they didn't cheerlead destructive mobs burning down cities. It would be nice if they didn't make a national news story whenever somebody makes an OK sign or finds a "noose". Most importantly it would be nice if they did not cheerlead censorship and stripping constitutional rights. The level of fascism coming from the left is far beyond anything I could have ever imagined.

    REAL FACSISM occurs when the state colludes with the MSM and with the capitalist companies. They are all part of the same group working for their own interests and against the interests of every other citizen in America. Ultimately I believe the billionaire capitalists are controlling the other entities so we seem to have corporate fascism.... traditional fascism was the government controlling the MSM and the corporations.
     
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    Trump's "witch hunt" lie is just that. He is a raging narcissist who uses this to deflect from serious, honest reporting him, a way he gets his devotees to ignore reality and accept his version of reality instead.

    Compare Donald Trump to totalitarian leaders. Compare the way they speak and act. If you remove the blinders, engage your brain and stop being so damned myopic and biased, you'll see the disturbing truth that millions of Americans are enamored with a modern Mussolini.
     
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