Why is it bad the "Mainstream Media" went after Trump?

Ironic, then, that a FOX viewer wouldn't recognize the type of statement which cries out for a validating link.

Though I don't doubt that you are referring to an actual Rasmussen survey, it seems an unsupportable contention, if that was Rasmussen's wording, that their, "survey," would have been sufficiently comprehensive to justify such an overarching generalization, as that, "Fox viewers (are) more informed than both CNN and MSNBC viewers." First off, what was the size of the sampling of each of those groups? Was there any attempt to calibrate for the amount of time, per day, that viewers watched? It would hardly be a fair comparison between the networks, if the average viewer in the CNN sample only watched for 30 minutes a day, and their Fox-viewing group averaged 3 hours per day. Were respondents even asked about this? If not, that would be the first sign of a poorly-designed survey.

The next, obvious, question is: how many different issues were respondents' knowledge tested on? What were the issues? What were the questions? What was considered a "correct," answer? IOW, your merely stating what you did, is a pretty meaningless statement, I'm sorry to say. But, on the bright side, you could make it a potentially much more significant piece of evidence, if you could provide a link which would answer those types of questions.

I just saw, continuing down the thread, that you did, later, supply a Washington Times link. But this article shows, clearly, that it is a gross exaggeration to say it proves, as a general statement, that FOX viewers are just plain better informed.

<SNIP>
Climate change, gun violence and Uncle Sam’s growing debt — they’re among the biggest topics in politics, yet Americans don’t have a good grasp on what the actual numbers say...

Relatively few people could place the federal government’s total debt at $20 trillion to $30 trillion, but Fox viewers were about twice as likely as CNN viewers to do so, Heartland found in the polling, which Rasmussen Reports conducted.

On taxes, 36% of Fox viewers knew the top marginal tax rate was 30% to 40%. Just 23% of CNN watchers and 22% of MSNBC viewers knew that.

<End Snip>

These are very specific numbers, & very specific subjects, that are being looked at.

 

You assume he watches FOX. You know what they say about assume.

 

That first line was just an intro, in a semi-lighthearted vein. It really had little to do with the thrust of my comment. Did you read the rest of it?



Btw, it was only by luck, that I noticed your comment, since you didn't quote me; you know how that function works, right? Or did you not want me to see your post?

All it takes, to alert another member that there is a post for them to see, is to hit @, followed by the member's name. Generally, after just a few characters, the forum begins offering suggestions, from which to choose. For me, you only need to type in @DE, before a list pops up, which an additional, "F," reduces to just 2 of us. Not too much trouble, right? (or you could just push, "reply," at the bottom of my post).

 

I explained how this would go down.The ones in charge of this " supposed "
Cuomo investigation are gonna take their sweet time and then out of the blue on like
a friday night are gonna say they have found nothing serious enough to determine
Cuomo purposedly Cooked lies as to Nursery Homes manipulated deaths.
And the same as to woman who have filed complaints about his harassement.
Insufficient direct evidence.The same crap that was used to allow Biden to skate
from the woman { Tara Reade } who made a serious assual allegation that was
corroborated.Same crap used by Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison
against a former girlfriend accusing him of domestic abuse.
Democrats use a pattern or formula to circle the wagons and protect
at all costs any wrongdoing on their Party's behalf.
" Do Not Doubt Me " -- Rusty Limbaugh

 

I believe there are two reasons for this.

1. Trump is very rich (allegedly, can't tell with the way he's always begging for money) and to many people that's all that matters. We all have heard about Dominion filing lawsuits against Giuliani and Lindell but where are the papers for Trump? He also slandered them.

2. I know of a few gathering places online where hardcore Trumpers hang out. Many of them were involved in the Capitol riots (not too bright to advertise that but some did and were arrested). These people are very angry that Trump lost and absolutely believe somebody cheated.

A few months back the RNC was sending out donation requests using Trump's name and likeness. He had his attorney file a cease and desist letter. The people in those groups all agreed to harass their state representative and Congress representative to let them know IN NO UNCERTAIN terms that they backed TRUMP, NOT THE PARTY. It was soon after that they started going back to lick his boots. They did the same show of force with Lindell buying his pillows just because he was speaking out about election fraud on Trump's behalf.

Seeing those waves and how terrified people are to be on his bad side, it's not terribly surprising some media outlets won't touch it. They rely on viewers and big business advertisement. It will never come out but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some big names haven't already laid down the law on that.

 

This is Orwellian and violates 1st Amendment protections.... but look at all the little wannabe Leftist tyrants cheering it on.

 

So basically you are then promoting and believing in faulty data. At least now you might understand better with that new realization

 

That's why when it comes to free speech, we're doomed. The leftists, the people who control all of the institutions in the country, oppose free speech and now only the powerless support it.

 

People are tuning out and finding alternative sources for their information. It's why people like Jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan are blowing up. No one trusts the NY Times or WaPo or CNN anymore unless they are just a lockstep Leftist that cannot think for themselves. Trump did us a solid with the courts. I hate going that route, but that's what we have until we start rooting out this Authoritarian Marxists.

 

I'm promoting the opposite, ignore Rasmussen for reasons stated, they are outliers

 

Enough to show that a) the media is doing this enough to smear Trump more than other presidents and that b) this is violating rules and regulations regarding anonymous sources. Can’t help it if the Trump administration was notorious for leaks.

 

I actually heard about him meeting with the DA the other day. And ironically enough this proves my point about the media doing its job. How do you know about Cuomos sex scandals? The media told you about them.

 

Do you mind explaining this concept more?

 

Yes lol saying that the marketplace of ideas is failing us and asking you to figure out why it’s so wrong. Calling it communist when it’s just an analysis of the marketplace is hilarious. Tell you what let’s rephrase this issue in terms of the marketplace of ideas. Good ideas rise to the top because they make more money. Liberal MSM rises to the top because they make more money than conservative sites. Does that sound accurate?

 

Maybe I should ask you, what is your definition of The Media, because to me, that term implies producing material.

 

That’s what confuses me. The social media pages I follow produce material, memes. Those memes communicate information to me about the world and how to view it. My definition of media is the means in which information is widely disseminated for a general audience.

 

Content like that is produced by people not affiliated with FB, Twitter, or IG. Those companies provide the platform, not the content.

 

So why does that distinction matter?

 

Because those organizations are not responsible for their content, anyone can claim anything and use their platform to spread it. Whereas a News Organization is vetted by a whole set of people they are accountable to in addition to their own work before it ever becomes published.

Or to put it another way, the difference between a newspaper headline and graffiti scrawled on a bathroom wall.

 

MSM = Fake News.
Fake News is alway Bad News.

 

But I see that as a distinction like TV and newspaper. Both media accomplishing different things in different ways. Am I wrong to view it that way?

 

How many is that? If its 100, then its not worth my time to try to convince you. If its 5, then its totally worth my time to convince you. Some people wouldn't change their mind for any number of citations... is there a number that would convince you?

 

Your claim is yours to qualify as you see fit. My job is to say when you present 5 out of the 1000s of article on trump, why those are representative of the 1000s written on him. It’s not a question of quantity but of quality.

 

So would I have to cite 1000s then? How can I prove something to you when you cant even tell me what qualifies as proof...?

 

Sorry about the ordering, I’m on my phone right now. In a nutshell, this is how you can qualify your claim. Anytime you say anything about anonymous sources, I’m going to say that it’s proof the trump administration was bad at preventing leaks. You have to overcome that accusation with your own sources.

See above.