Why should people be forced to get the vaccine in order to protect others who choose not to get it?

Can you support that claim?

 

You can search for

Natural immunity better than Pfizer....

 

This isn't a case where you get to pick one guy and ignore the entire remainder of the world of science based medicine.

Beyond that, suggesting that the best way for America to defend against COVID is for ALL of us to get COVID is just unbelievably stupid.

 

It is a flat out lie that Americans were not all exposed to Covid last spring.

 

BULL. I've cited the CDC on this many times.

And, YOU can't even do a simple web search!!

If I cite the CDC to you AGAIN, will you accept that THIS time???

And, if not, please cite what YOU think qualifies as falsifying the CDC.

 

Please cite a source of science that YOU think falsifies the CDC, FDA, NAIAD, WHO and the rest when their science says the Pfizer (and other vaccines) are of serious importance to our defense against COVID.

And, I do NOT mean some individual you found.

I mean a source of legitimate clinical testing to verify your hypothesis.

 

So says you!!

And, that doesn't even support your point, as being "exposed" does NOT mean that adequate antibodies were the result.

 

Again, you're talking about protecting people from themselves.

 

I most certainly will! But not "again." You've only previously cited the "CDC" by name, but no link.

 

lol. No.

 

"Evidence suggests the U.S. COVID-19 vaccination program has substantially reduced the burden of disease in the United States by preventing serious illness in fully vaccinated people and interrupting chains of transmission."

CDC

But, remember that there are other science organizations as well. I just cited THIS on this time.

 

Cite that then!

And, then cite a source of legitimate science that suggests that being exposed, but having no symptoms would promote antibodies capable of defending against COVID.

 

As in, they were all infected, whether symptomatic or asymptomatic?

 

Antibodies are only part of the equation. The notion antibodies are the only important predictor of functional immunity is another “lie of omission”.
https://rupress.org/jem/article/218...hly-functional-virus-specific-cellular-immune

But antibodies are important and are present after asymptomatic infection as well!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/04/210421124603.htm

 

So no accompanying evidence.

 

No results returned regarding the inventor of the Pfizer vax.

 

Why the hell are they counting every positive test as a breakthrough infection? Is everyone being tested vaccinated?

Only SOMETIMES defining breakthrough infections as symptomatic? I thought that it would be the vast majority due to the lack of asymptomatic testing.

 

My mistake in wording. They are counting every positive test in a vaccinated individual as a breakthrough infection.

The actual historical definition of breakthrough infection is every detectable infection (with RT-PCR in the case of Covid)—asymptomatic and symptomatic.

The bureaucratic entities in the US have chosen to move away from the historical definition and define breakthrough infection as a hospitalized or fatal case. This allows them to report a much lower rate than if they stuck to the traditional definition.

 

And were they tested?

Your side claims nobody had it who was not tested.

It was here for more than a month before the tests were widely available, and the test is clearly unreliable to say the least.

Last fall the normal flu was diagnosed at 3% of normal.

Why?

Because the other 97% were lied to and told they had Covid, because the fascist left wanted to use the Covid fraud to force absentee ballots....

 

Dr. Fauci, serial abuser of puppies and monkeys, had a "first answer" issue.

His first answers were honest. Then he changed them...


First answers....

Will masks stop it?

NO

Will Covid come and go like a normal flu?

YES


The data from the original cruise ships was spot on and consistent with Japan and other countries not obsessed with using absentee ballot fraud to steal an election.

2500 on board
30 some get symptoms
1 age 70 dies

Perfectly consistent with a NORMAL FLU.

You argue none of the 2499 are "safe" and all must get the murderous fraud vax or lose your job.

Science always said 83% have natural immunity and need precisely nothing....

The agenda behind Covid is treasonous and fascist. That is because the Covid fraud is being done by precisely the Zionist fascists Einstein warned us about....

CDC said 94% of Covid deaths were fraud, death by another reason, including motorcycle crash....

Why were they lying?

Why lie to inflate Covid death totals?

Why force absentee ballots?

Why mandate a murderous fraud vax?

Why sick the FBI on parents who want math and English taught in schools?

Why the absolute 100% pure hypocrisy by the left about Fauci torturing puppies and monkeys?


If a republican was busted for torturing monkeys and puppies, would the media and the left make more noise about it?????

That the left will not call for Fauci to resign over HIS KNOWLEDGE AND APPROVAL of locking up puppies in cages and having disease infected insects eat them alive is all the proof anyone should require to see the fascist Zionist Biden klan for what it really is (and part of the reason why it loves the Taliban)....

 

There is no evidence about that.
Second COVID spike (with masks and distancing all over) was higher then first one (without masks).

 

??

You can do your own research.

Choosing to ignore what CDC and the FDA have done and then asking ME to spoon feed you is way beyond lazy. You are just plain avoiding.

 

CDC spreads the lie.
They claim that 90% of deaths are coming from unvaccinated people.
Based on their claim we should have only about 10,000 deaths in August / September not 100,000 as it is in reality.

 

Please cite.

Throughout, we've had deluges of anti-vaxx messaging and hate spewed at those who have promoted masking and distancing. We still have that TODAY. We still have people loudly arguing that NONE of these methods should be used ANYWHERE. We have states where the governors work to ensure the methods are NOT used!!

NOW you want to claim that those methods were followed to such an extent that failure should be attributed to the METHODS and not to the behavior of the population?

Let's be serious.

 

No, the CDC has not stopped the VAERS reporting system.

CDC reports that the VAERS system includes 9,143 deaths of those recently vaccinated as of October 25, 2021. During this period, 414 Million vaccines have been administered. That means the death rate is 0.0022%.

But, let's also remember that those 9K deaths were NOT all due to the vaccine. The CDC continuously works on analyzing these deaths.

In other words, VAERS has been set up to ENSURE serious overreporting in order to capture cases that might not otherwise be reported.

So, you are whining about a 0.0022% risk that is calculated on the basis of assuming that ALL VAERS REPORTS of deaths are actual deaths caused by vaccination.

And, that is ridiculous.

As to the rest of your post, it is YOU who is causing unnecessary deaths by promoting this tiny risk as a justification for not being vaccinated and thus facing the much higher risks posed by COVID.