You don't know what I want or what I think. As a community college teacher in the States, many years ago, I had a student who was failing my class bring a gun to school and tell another student he was going to kill me. He showed that student the gun, bragging. Fortunately that student told the authorities at school who called the police and the student was expelled. Back in those days, that's all they did. It was a night class, and I had a police escort from the parking lot to and from my class for a week. I know about the threat; I've experienced it personally. I have never, even then, wanted a gun to protect myself. I have lived and worked in 6 different countries and traveled to well over 30 others as an independent woman and independent traveler. I have no use for guns. I am not afraid of life. But American schools need to do something to stop this madness.
I'm not doing the research on it. I have a life. The lawmakers will do the research. I'm not obsessed with firearms. It's not a part of my life. I feel sorry for people who are obessesed with them. Who are too afraid to live w/o them.
If that were the case, you'd suggest and support solutions that can actually be implemented and would actually have an effect once they are. So far, all you offer are the usual anti-gun talking points.
The Anti-gun lawmakers have never done research, and cannot make informed decisions on gun laws. Those who actually understand how firearms work, are sold and how effective a gun law would be are the ones who should be making laws.
Ah. You choose to argue from ignorance. This only supports the idea you aren't actually concerned about the lives of children.
No, we have. Here's an example of an ignorant lawmaker. Diana DeGette pushed for a ban on "high capacity magazines" for fifteen years in Congress without realizing that they were reusable.
Americans used to have access to Tommy guns, which are more deadly than any semi-automatic. Yet Americans didn't buy them and shoot up schools or anything else, gangsters bought them and shot up each other. The problem isn't the guns, its the people who want to kill innocents...
She won't answer that and you already know the answer. I've already told her that a shotgun statistically is shot per shot more lethal than an AR.
No point in arguing with people like that. ***************************************** "I have never, even then, wanted a gun to protect myself. I have lived and worked in 6 different countries and traveled to well over 30 others as an independent woman and independent traveler. I have no use for guns. I am not afraid of life." ***************************************** No point in continuing any dialogue after that.
For East coasters thinking they are so far shared of us Midwest folks, I can not believe that you can get in to a school, with out being buzzed in. After Sandy Hook the schools around here got locked up tight. All doors are locked with only one entrance for visitors. You want in hit the buzzer and wait for them to talk to you on camera. I find it amazing that all schools are not like this. I truly thought it was common practice. We must care more about are kids safety more.
Life entails risk. Get over it. Never mind the implement that one may use, let us focus on another question. Is it possible to eliminate from life, every individual that may conclude it is an acceptable, even justifiable, course of action to engage in murdering others, even a great many others, on the sole basis that they feel like it? The united states is not a first world, developed nation. It presents the illusion of being one, but it is not.
Let us say that false premise is true, whether or not, this Nation is First World or not, is completely irrelevant to the matter at hand. You cannot control people's actions by the simple means Gun Control Advocates wish to impose. N.Y.C. style Gun Control has only affected law abiding citizens, not criminals that are Armed in spite of gun laws and a pro-active Police Department, and when Police take guns away from prohibited people, many cry profiling, foul and racism, they want Police to look the other way when they see a Gangsta, illegally carrying a gun. Once an N.Y.P.D. freind saw a wanted Felon walking on his beat, he yelled at him to stop, the guy ran a bit, then pulled out a Davis .32 acp pistol and shot himself under the jaw and blowing off the top of his own head. He just did not want to go back to Prison. There are hard core Drug adicts out there, Criminals, people with all manner of problems, I see them every day, they talk to themselves, repeating some phrase or mantra over and over. Even on this forum, I suspect some are delusional in their belief in gun control or distortion of the Second Amendment as fact, when nothing could be further from the truth. There is no easy solution, however, disarming law abiding people and banning and further restrictions on the Right to keep and bear Arms, is definitely not the answer. The existing laws must be enforced and stop giving Criminals a pass, serious Prison time for trafficking Arms, for Strawman sales, for committing any crime while armed, rather than probation and early release.
It is true, and it is relevant. Whenever it is brought up how various nations have strict firearm-related restrictions on the books, but still have exceedingly high levels of firearm-related violence, it is claimed that such is the case because they are not first-world, developed nations where rule of law exists. The united states has strict firearm-related restrictions in place at the federal and state level, and yet they are doing absolutely nothing to benefit society, or make anyone safer, and violence continues unabated. The only logical conclusion is that the united states is not a first-world, developed nation. The case can even be made for how such is indeed the case, as there is ample evidence to support such. If supporters of firearm-related restrictions wish to dismiss their failures out of hand by blaming a lack of rule of law, then the united states is not a first-world, developed nation where the rule of law exists. It is that simple.
I do not pretend to compare My Country to other's , I have travelled extensively, served overseas in various capacities, however, as far as Our Nation, We have the only things that matter, a Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, a unique form of Government, and a peculiar People like no other on Earth. I survived Ground Zero on 9/11/01, saw the first attack at the World Trade Center 2/26/1993, and a grocery list other assorted disasters campaigns and conflicts. I spilled a fair amount of blood in various assorted nasty hell holes. So I dread hearing the Nation that I took oaths to defend, with the last drop of my blood, refered to as anything less than what it truly means to Me, The best place on Earth...bar none. God Bless America, God Bless the Republic, May Our Enemies be few, and Our Allies Legion. Dedications: Teeth of the Lion. Author, Me....
Is it being denied that the federal government has subjected the united state constitution to gross violations of law, and the united state supreme court has validated them over the course of decades? Eminent domain, civil asset forfeiture, interstate commerce, qualified and absolute immunity, etc. it is a veritable laundry list of legislation and rulings that everyone believes violations the protections of the united states constitution, and there is nothing that anyone can do about it to change it.
Quote: Was it not Benjamin Franklin / Poor Richard; that said; "Those that like laws and sausages should never see how either are made." Having been of the Inner Party, (1984) I witnessed many awful violations of Civil Rights, more than I would care to admit to. I did the best I could do, when it depended solely on Me and My discretion. It was not always pretty, and in Medicine, and Law Enforcement, sadly, it often ended badly. I saw this all too often as a brief fierce struggle, would end in death. Laws & Sausages. "By my troth, I care not. A man can die but once. We owe God a death. I’ll ne'er bear a base mind. An ’t be my destiny, so; an ’t be not, so. No man’s too good to serve...., and let it go which way it will, he that dies this year is quit for the next." Shakespeare.
All of which means what precisely, with regard to the united states not being a first-world, developed nation?
Such would depend on the context of the question being presented. Is it in regard to locations where strict firearm-related restrictions supposedly work as opposed to locations where it does not work? Or is it in a more general regard? The united states does not qualify as being a first-world developed nation on the basis of widespread corruption at every level and branch of government, making it impossible for the corruption to be eliminated or even adequately addressed. It is overwhelmed by a crippling national debt that it has no hope of ever paying off, and every year it is forced to go deeper and deeper into debt just to stay operation. It has widespread, significant percentages of unemployment, homelessness, and adult illiteracy. The immigration system is broken, and those who are in the country illegally are rewarded for the crimes they commit by simply being present, often given incentives to actually be present, with efforts to allow them to take part in national elections and shape national policy, while simultaneously obstructing efforts to identify those behind such efforts. There is a complete absence of respect for rule of law, both on the part of the public who are supposed to abide by the law, and by government that makes and enforces the law.
Legally there is not a single thing that can be done to better things. So long as corrupt individuals are allowed to hold power, which they are, nothing will ever improve. Those who hold office are exempt from the authority of law, meaning they are allowed to do whatever they wish, whenever they wish, and suffer no consequences for such. In theory Barack Obama could have been tried for treason against the united states, but such would never come to pass.
