Why the fixation on the whistleblower identity?

All that has been confirmed is that there are a number of people who hold a similar opinion.

 

Don't you find it the least bit suspicious that real whistleblowers like Manning, Snowden, Ellsberg, etc., are always exposed and persecuted, whereas this alleged whistelblower remains shrouded in secrecy?

 

Think you'll find that the whistleblower has more protection today than they did with Manning, Snowden and Ellsberg due to changes in the law.

 

This is total BS

The IG had to immediately hand it over to the DOJ because it was outside of his privy. The only reason why it was determined to be credible is that it suggested sources inside the White House. Period.

The DOJ determined that there was nothing illicit about the contents of the complaint. There is no criminal investigation because there was no evidence of a crime.

Adam Schiff is running his own dog and pony show. AKA A bogus pseudo grand jury proceeding.

 

After Trump suggested that this person was a spy and traitor on national TV whoever this person is might be afraid for his and his family’s safety. Many Trump fanatics are violent and dangerous.

 

More like a smoke screen to hide the real crimes....

"Kolomoisky had been placed on a US Government Visa ban list due to his questionable business practices; however, shortly after Archer Devon and Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma, that ban was mysteriously lifted, and there has been no investigation into these missing funds."

Until NOW

We can always talk about, "selling the VP office."

 

Yes, that's usually what happens to whistelblowers. They are exposed and then persecuted. Except for this one, apparently, who has been afforded a protection that no other whistleblower in recent memory has been. And you don't find that the least bit suspicious?

 

I believe the IG went to the DCI and it was the DCI who went to the WH and was routed to DoJ, which determined it wasn't worthy of investigation. But, that's not the legal path. The complaint, by law, should have gone to Congress. Congress might then refer the complaint to DoJ. In this case, however, DoJ had already ruled, although if additional evidence is presented, I suppose they could initiate an investigation based on that new information.

 

Then there is the issue Trump’s people should be focusing on. That there was no improper action taken by Trump, Guiliani, Lev, Igor and the 3 Stooges, Volker, Perry and Sondland. The identity of the WB is of no importance.

Barr, who is seen by many as a crooked shill for Trump decided there was nothing illicit decided not to investigate. However he was also the same guy who insisted that the Mueller report totally exonerated Trump. The US Congress disagrees with Barr and has decided to open its own investigation which is now proceeding. Enjoy the show.

 

Outside the chain of command? You mean complying with a congressional subpoena or talking to the NSC lawyer?

It's not unusual for a whistleblower to ask advice from congress. Does that change anything in his statement?

Your dancing around not refuting anything.

 

Or a fear that the whistleblower will be asked about the whole chain of events leading up to his complaint.

So it is actually more like a situation where Adam Schiff will have to account for his communications with the whistleblower before the letter was submitted.

 

Sleazy right wing blogs and scumbags like Mark Levin have already exposed this person. (If they even have the right person). News agencies are reluctant to print his name for legal reasons at this point.

I am not suspicious at all regarding why this person brought the sleazy actions of Trump and the band of idiots he had parading around the world trashing respected US foreign service workers and trying to gain advantage in the next election.

 

No........... The US Congress had its own investigations... No collusion was found there either.

And the DOJ is actively conducting a criminal investigation of the conduct of several individuals in the Obama administration, including what actually did happen in the Ukraine.

Your smoke screen of an investigation is yet another Hail Mary. The public understands exactly what is going on and it will backfire on the Dems like everything else has up to this point.

 

No... The protocol stays within the Executive Branch. The routing to the DOJ took place simply because it had nothing to do with the intelligence community. And there were potential leaks involved.

Congress only gets notified if there is probable cause. There was none.

 

Vindman reported directly to Morrison.

Morrison testified that Vindman went outside of his chain of command. Vindman is a military officer. What he did was a violation of the UCMJ regulations.

I can't make it any clearer for you to grasp.

 

So Dems are now in the business of protecting spies and traitors? Let them come forth and defend themselves, which is more due process than your kangaroo court is affording the President.

 

Based on the testimony of several individuals to date, there have been many significant contradictions.

Due to the fact that Schiff even shut down the testimony of a specific witness, I would have to say that his dog and pony show has been a colossal failure.

If they try to bring these witnesses in for an impeachment trial they would be chewed to pieces with actual due process cross examination.

 

I think you're wrong. Cite your source.

 

It doesn’t matter what chain this WB went through. The good thing is that what he did has opened up a whole can of worms regarding the President’s personal Attorney and his close ties to a couple of Russian Mobsters and what the hell they were all doing over in Ukraine trashing our Ambassador behind her back to Ukranian officials.

Now it turns out that these crooks have paid Hand Grenade Rudy over $500,000 for his “services”. WTF? It has also been ascertained that these Guiliani/Trump associates are also tied in with high level Russian Mobster Dmytri Firtash who was tossed out of Ukraine and is out on $100 million bail fighting extradition to the US from Austria on bribery and extortion charges.

This is what makes American Justice so great. Now we find that Firtash is being represented by scumbag Fox News TV “lawyer” Joe diGenova who was seen on Hannity trashing our Ukranian Ambassador a few months back. Follow the money. Why is $500,000 of filthy Russian Mob money being paid to Rudy? Who is he working for? I want to see his ass in front of US Congress explaining that.

This is what makes me proud to be an American. Just like with Nixon and Clinton, we will get to the bottom of this sleazy mess thanks to the great investigative reporters working for our free press. Nixon wanted to have Ellsberg arrested and attempted to have the New York Times shut down for printing the Pentagon Papers too, but he ended up biting the Dick. I anxiously look forward to all of the filthy crap Trump, Barr, Rudy, Igor, Lev, Pompeo and the 3 Stooges have been up to being exposed to the US public. This is a great day for America.

 

"On Aug. 12, consistent with the procedures established in the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act, an unidentified whistleblower sent a disclosure and complaint to the inspector general for the intelligence community." (Washington Post)

The only problem was that it had NOTHING to do with the intelligence community. Therefore, the protocol moved it to the jurisdiction of the DOJ. The IG himself has made a public statement to that effect.

 

You can make it clearer.
Where did he go?

 

Giuliani was working in consort with the State Department and it has all been documented on 302s.

So while you are worried about two US citizens who are being looked at for campaign violations, you can hide behind all of the pay to play activity that the Dems have been up to for years.

Lets start with the Koch Glitsch Italia scandal where two Russians in charge at the branch office, Natalia Cherenkova and Elena Romanova, illegally transferred pipeline equipment bound for the Crimea while the US was sanctioning Russia.
I'll bet that a good chunk of the money laundered went into a certain property purchase on Martha's Vineyard. Not to mention the blackmailing of the Italian Intelligence community that Barr is now looking into.
Putin sure did make out like a bandit while Obama and Hillary were in charge.

And just a few weeks after Yovanovitch was recalled, the US and Ukrainian investigators were actually able to sit down and interface.

Go ahead and bet the farm on Schiff and Pelosi........... If they really had any evidence, the House vote would have already taken place.

 

Vindman has been scheduled for an RCM 303.

His security clearance will be the topic at hand.

 

Does this mean you don't know?

 

All that pompous sanctimonious crud, yet you're afraid to have the WB charade exposed for the fraud it is? Since when did anonymous hearsay become judicial due process?