Why the fixation on the whistleblower identity?

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This means that Morrison stated under oath that Vindman did something either inappropriate or illegal.

    An RCM 303 is a preliminary inquiry.

    In any event, Vindman will have to explain his whole role in the process.
    It is one thing to express a concern. It is another to go outside of the chain of command. He is a military officer and subject to a stricter code of conduct than a civilian is.
     
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  2. ronv

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    Sounds like another article of impeachment to me.
    Keep us posted. :)
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a lame remark....

    Both Vindman and Taylor were thrown under the bus by Adam Schiff.
     
  4. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    A credible claimant bears credible claims, a non-credible claimant bears non-credible claims. You will know them by the fruit they bear.
     
  5. jack4freedom

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    I don’t really care whether or not the WB comes out or not. That’s up to him. Scumbags like Mark Levin have already exposed him if they indeed have the right person. I just hope that one of Trump’s pipe bombers like the guy with the van down in Florida don’t harm him or his family. Also, anonymous heresay will not decide anything in this case. Seems like the WB opened up a nice can of worms for the investigators to dig into with both hands just like in Watergate and Whitewater. It wasn’t the burglary that got Nixon tossed or the two bit land deal that got Clinton impeached, disbarred and disgraced. The great thing about America, our free press with its excellent investigative journalists and our system of government is that they will usually get to the bottom of any sleazy dealings by high ranking government officials. This pack of imbeciles led by Trump, Hand Grenade Rudy and the 3 Stooges is about as easy to follow as a dripping blood trail. I look forward to seeing all of these idiots testify under oath in front of our congressional committees. It’s a great day for America....
     
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    The whistleblower is wise to not reveal his identity to Republican members of the impeachment process. They will undoubtedly leak his identity, or secretly tell Trump, who will blabber it on Twitter--all of which is illegal, by the way.
     
  7. jack4freedom

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    Schiff and his cohorts are doing a great job. Vindman and Taylor will gladly appear at those open and public hearings you guys have been begging for. I hope you enjoy them.
     
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    Kind of a silly statement ronnie. The democrats love to live in a world of unnamed, anonymous, undisclosed, people close to, insiders, etc.
    Knowing how Shiff for brains has overated so far especially with his made up parody of Trump's call, I believe little of nothing of what he says. Even yow would have to agree that this clown is over the line so why do you expect us to believe he did not coach the whistleblower who by now everyone knows is an anti-Trumper who may have an axe to grind.
    I would think after the democrat Kavanaugh debacle, the pee down their legs would still be a bit wet but they still keep shovelling the **** into the alt-lefties ears.
    Please don't stop though, I find them to be very entertaining.
    Side note, I hope you got to see the short segment on the Today show this morning when they asked random people on the street in FL what they thought of Trump, will they vote for him, did they vote for him the first time, are you for impeachment, etc? The looks on the face of the Today show's hosts was hysterical and they had to quickly move on to a new story because the answers that were being given to the reporters' questions did not fit their agenda.
     
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    Apparently, the statute states that if the matter is deemed "credible and urgent" it goes to Congress. No one has suggested it wasn't "credible and urgent." Both the IG and DNI have testified that the Whistleblower followed the law.
     
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    Does your thirst for vigilante justice apply to Joe & Hunter Biden as well, and Hillary? I suspect not.
     
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    Vigilante justice is extra judicial by definition. However the probe into Trump and his band of imbeciles is being conducted by the JUDICIAL Commitee of the United States Congress. That’s the opposite of vigilante. If any such empowered entity would like to run an investigation into Joe, Hunter, Hillary or Daffy Duck, I would welcome it. However it seems that Trump’s advance investigation team is a little hamstrung now with Igor and Lev under home arrest and Guiliani under Federal Investigation.
     
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    What fixation? Aren't the identities of whistleblowers supposed to be protected? (I could be wrong but that is my current understanding). I don't care that its a lying whistleblower trying to take down my Trump...the law is the law and Republicans respect the rule of law.
     
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    Schiff's kangaroo court is being conducted by the INTELLIGENCE committee, which is a breach of due process in and of itself; intended solely for the purpose of denying due process to the House Republicans. All previous impeachments had been conducted by the judiciary committee, which afforded the defense due process.

    You should stick to your daffy duck cartoons, and leave the weightier matters of justice to those who understand justice.
     
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    knowing his motivation isn’t punishment. Whistleblower protection protects from being fired, it doesn’t provide anonymity.

    The whistleblower worked for Biden when his son got the Cush job he wasn’t qualified for.
     
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    All of the relevant committees now engaged in investigations will funnel their reports to the Judiciary Committee for review and the formal composition of articles of impeachment. They will then be voted out of committee and to the floor of the House for debate and vote.
     
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    The Judicial Commitee will handle the articles of impeachment. Schiff is running a legitimate impeachment inquiry right now and doing a great job. We are lucky to have guys like him around to keep crooked scumbags from operating criminal enterprises out of the White House.
     
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    Schiff has been running nothing more than a kangaroo court. Which is why the entire process has been contaminated from the get-go, and why it needs to be dismissed without a trial; and likely will be.
     
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    If it were a legitimate impeachment inquiry, it would have been run out of the House judiciary committee, with due process; not out of Schiff's kangaroo court.
     
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    It’s been a great process. Schiff has done a great job. Soon open hearings will commence. MAGA....
     
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    Great enough to get 50 Senators committed to making it DOA.
     
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    Priceless question. Illustrates the true delusion of the left.
     
  22. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The important thing is to show the American people just what a lying filthy administration Trump is running and those GOP congresscritters who have enabled and defended him. Then hopefully the US voters will toss all of them out on their asses. If not, at least they made an honest effort instead of just standing by and pretending it didn’t happen. Normally the weak spineless Democrats would let a scumbag like Trump off the hook. Kudos to Schiff and the Democrats for showing some courage for once in their lives.
     
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    It's not who says what; it's the validity of what they say. Numerous people have confirmed the QPQ.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    No, it's all about who says what. Also all about who hired who said what. In fact, that's all that really matters. We can listen to the conversation ourselves

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    Very well articulated! Unfortunately, it is a logical fallacy, although an understandable one.

    Given that we have the call transcript (or memo if you prefer), testimony from others directly involved in dealings with Ukraine, and some other forms of hard evidence (such as the text message chain), we are at the point where we can evaluate individual claims made in the WB report independently. If the WB turned out to be Bernie Madoff, Hillary Clinton, or Trump Jr, it really wouldn't change the text on the WB report - and hence the claims being evaluated. Ultimately if we are concerned with getting to the truth of matters, we need to evaluate claims on their merits.
     
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