Why there the second amendment is a farce believed by fools

Dude...you quoted my comments about Garands and Springfields and responded with stupid shyte about AR-10s.
You need to go away now

 

Oh no! Did I soft tap the A?

Oh MY GOD?

That changes EVERYTHING

Is trolling the only thing ammosexuals can do?

Hint...clip fed is not "magazine fed" which is what was being discussed. Are you another gun expert who knows nothing about the subject?

 

Yeah, I did quote them. That's where you have your cute little Lesh criteria for superiority

 

You can stop your wiki festival.
Everybody knows you're making it up as you go.
And you "soft tapped" nothing

 

Pretty funny that in the very post in which you claim I couldn't have made a typing error...you made a typing error.

Too friggin funny

 

Unaware of your own post?

 

You didn't make an error. You typed Grand purposefully

 

Both as protection against an oppressive government (which for more than the 2nd amendment was the greatest concern of the constitution convention and the ratifying conventions) and from fear of a standing army (but not navy) -- which is somewhat tied together -- were the main, but not all, imputes for the 2nd amendment.

 

Odd that I spelled it correctly both before and after that typo LOL.

I guess you had to say "something"/

 

Too bad they didn't actually put those fears into the Constitution.

They DID however describe a "Well Regulated Militia" that had as part of it's duties...to put down insurrections.

And it has been used to do just that several times.

 

Insurrections are not perpetrated by the government.

And you are right in that they should have been more specific.

 

Fear of a standing army (but not navy) and of an oppressive federal government were the two main reasons, though they are tied together somewhat (and not the only ones), why the states insisted on the 2nd amendment.

[This is a repeat. My connection crashed and I didn't know what I was posting made it in. Sorry.]

 

The constitution hardly ever gives an explanation for its laws, rules and amendments. There was no need to explain why individuals have a right to keep and bear arms. Though oddly they did feel a need to explain why states have a right to their militias -- being necessary for the security of a free state.

 

You keep repeating these things and you are wrong every time you do.

 

True but but did in this case which gives it that much more importance

 

And the armored vehicle might have a crew that won't bear down on the citizens and turn the guns on the generals. You want to fantasize, lets fantasize. You wrongfully assume that the armed forces will not disobey orders to fire on their friends and relatives.
It's been a right since 1791, and no one need justify their reasons for owning a gun, to you or anybody else. You don't like it - TOUGH.

 

In the late 1700's, the phrase "well regulated" did not mean regulation by the government or government oversight or any other leftist fantasy.

To a person in 1700's, well regulated meant "proper working order"

 

They were all lawyers

Lawyers prefer to be a little vague

 

That might be a fair point if it weren't described very clearly in Article 1 Section 8. Unfortunately for your claim...it is an it's not described the way you claim.

 

Unless they're being legislators too. Legislators are often maddeningly specific to the point where the result is incredibly long and nearly impossible to understand. They do this because, as lawyers, they've either seen or actually DONE every trick in book to take advantage of any vagueness they can find. The Constitution also is not written by just one person, but a consortium of the best legislators that have ever lived

 

Exactly.

Let's put it another way, who determines when the government has "become oppressive"? When is it that the average citizen should be able to load up his arsenal, go down to City Hall and start murdering the pretty girls that volunteered to be receptionists and guides. (The pols are all in the Bahamas and the guards in the basement Dunkin Donuts,)

'Cuz you see, the Founding Fathers, after several months of wrangling came up with this literal work of genius, this guide to enable men to actually govern themselves in a rational manner without killing each other.

And then they wrote this final phrase. " and if you REALLY don't agree with what the majority of the people want, you can always take your gun and murder your fellow citizens until everyone agrees with you"

That makes SOO much more sense than having all these laws and rights and such folderol

 

And you apparently can't even put forth a valid opinion of your own.

Again Madison said that we all have the rights to bear the arms that would make us quality members of a militia capable of defeating any enemy invader. Yet you are not allowed to even own heavy auto weapons. But hey at least the government agents who run the NRA have their musket.

LOL

 

Look I know you are slow, but the government ATTACKS militia groups all the time. What planet do you actually live on?

 

It does not mention what government, that is true, but the only oppressing government inside the borders of the USA is the American government................Just a fact, if they did not oppress you, and fear you then you could have an auto 50 cal.

 

You didn't actually answer the question...................But at least is China comes you have your NRA musket to get yourself killed