Why was Francisco E. Garcia held in a border cage?

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  1. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    Of course it was. He did nothing wrong. He proved his citizenship. ICE had no authority to hold him for more than an hour. 30 days is a gross violation of his civil rights. Huge settlement coming his way.
     
  2. struth

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    Sorry you don’t get to tell investigators how fast they need to work. He lied to them, told them he was a Mexican and carried forged documents.

    There was nothing illegal about his detention.

    Do you think anyone arrested and detained can sue the govt if they are found not guilty? Hahabab
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is the most ridiculous excuse I have heard so far. Obviously you have never traveled outside this country if you think it could take an immigration agent three weeks to verify that you are an American citizen when you come back.
     
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    Turns out, Brian was lying. Not only did he tell border security agents he was an American citizen and show documentation of such, he filled out a form when he was detained indicating he was a US citizen.

    I think this is another example of the incompetence of border agents combined with their general disregard for the people they are dealing with.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Don't be ridiculous. He had a birth certificate (he was born in Houston), Texas state ID and Social Security card with him.

    Only thing he didn't have was that he wasn't "American-looking" and "American-sounding" enough for what the Trump regime has implanted into the minds of his border gestapo.
     
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    I have no idea. But you mentioning that he had two sets of IDs as if that were relevant clearly indicated that you had never heard of dual citizenship. Fact is he didn't have to sets of IDs. He only had one.set. And it all said that he was American.
     
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    Thanks dems for the open border policy causing this.
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Because da racism. The border patrol arrests every Mexican crossing the
    border because da racism. Most border patrol agents are Hispanic themselves because da racism. This thread is da racism.
     
  9. rahl

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    Correct. The constitution, US and state law does. 30 days is an illegal detention when he provided proof of citizenship in day 1. YUGE settlement going his way.
     
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    Just because he later flipped and said he was a citizen doesn’t mean he simply gets released. They had to conduct an investigation and confirm it. He had forged documents. Nowhere in the constitution or state or federal law doesn’t it say how long the investigators have to conduct their investigation
     
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    So how many illegals "Total" you reckon are in the U.S. currently? Lets start there :)
     
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    He didn’t flip. He proved he was a citizen on day one. Detention after that is illegal.

    Phone call to department of health. Takes 5 minutes.
    Lol........https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/99534722
     
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    Estimates from official sources are between 11-20 million.
     
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    Your link says that a citizen can be detained if proof is not available. The kid should have been honest at first and not lied requiring an imvestigation. The forged documents didn’t help either.
     
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    1- You arbitrarily assume that all asylum seekers broke the law
    2- You arbitrarily assume that those who did break the law did so with criminal intent.

    On both pints, you are wrong!!!
     
  16. Kode

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    So did I. You're not making any sense. The only difference is how he looks vs. how I look.
     
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    Then your data was inaccurate, thanks for being honest.
     
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    No it doesnt. Not until all those discrepancies are sorted out. Hes presented with at least one form of falsified identification, they now have cause to doubt anything he offers until a higher authority sorts it.
    That's exactly the sort of thing that allows them to drag you into custody. Hence, if you're going to use false documents dont make them in your own name so they cloud the veracity of your official documents. Ffs.
     
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    Glad we now agree that your link left out part of the story and that the reason he was held is he had conflicting forms of identification that used two different names and claimed two different citizenship statuses.
     
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    False, his finger prints told a different story. They said he was a Mexican citizen, with a different name traveling on a visitors visa.

    Claiming two different identities, that is called fraud not dual citizenship. Surely you know the difference.
     
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    Only for a certain time. This kid provided proof on day 1. Can’t detain him after that. He’s got a huge settlement coming.
     
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    My data was not inaccurate, as I showed you.
     
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    He provided his official US birth certificate. His citizenship was proven. He can’t be detained after that. He will win in court and get a huge settlement.
     
  24. struth

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    Sure they can, while they investigate. He first said he was a Mexican and had forged documents. This was a perfectly reasonable investigation and the kid was released after it was determined he first lied. The question remains though, why did he lie?
     
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    For starters, it wasn't YOUR data :) It was simply a paste from someone else.. You by admitting there are
    Thru that data off :) You did well!
     

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