Will the Memo ruin the Mid-terms for the Ds?

The deep state lives and breathes.

 

For about a year now, anyway, ever since Trump came along with his endless series of big ol' porky pies. Suddenly anyone in the government who disagrees with those porky pies is part of some "deep state" conspiracy against Trump, who speaks alt-right truth to power.

 

Will the Memo ruin the Mid-terms for the Ds?

 

There is an entrenched bureaucracy in Washington that favors big government (self-preservation) and leans left. It resists tampering by Democratic presidents and it's downright hostile to Republican presidents. The hate it has for Trump is off the scale.

 

Cool story.

 

This memo alone does nothing to hurt the dems. How they react to it, can make.a difference. Nothing negative is said or even hinted at to allege anything improper by the DNC.

 

And very sad.

 

I think the mid terms hinge more on Trump's persona than any stinking memo.

 

There was corruption in the Democratic party because of Hillary Clinton but it was washed away with the red tide (Republicans takeover).

Now the Democratic party is being swept clean and it is once again safe to vote Democrat.

 

I think one of the terms enjoyed by the right is: 'It's a nothing burger'.

 

Too soon to say.

 

Fooling the FISA court judges by citing the phony Steele dossier as evidence to spy on American citizens is no big deal.

Scary.

 

Interesting. That's about how I felt in 2016 and ended up voting third party. I would have voted for almost any other Democrat against Trump other than Hillary Clinton. Of course the opposite is also true, I would have voted for almost any other Republican except Trump against Hillary Clinton.

I would imagine the 8 million or so of us who voted third party probably felt the same. It was the disdain we had for both major party candidates that caused a four fold increase in third party voting from 2012 in 2016. From 1.5% to 6%. FYI, the third party vote was 1.2% in 2008 and an even 1.0% in 2004. Actually, I think 6% of the people voting for a candidate they didn't know, one with no money or name recognition, a candidate they knew they were voting for couldn't win, just voting for someone whose last names weren't Trump and or Clinton is pretty astounding.

 

Not really astounding. There are plenty of people who want to get the credit of civic involvement by voting without actually having to take responsibility for the consequences of winning. That's the "Don't blame me, I voted for [no one who had a chance]." It's just another way to be smug.

 

no, and it's sure not gonna make it any easier for the R's

 

no one has claimed that, it's like saying someone spray painted your car, then then asking for proof they stole your car

though if they had, and they gave us Trump, they would sure be laughing that one up now wouldn't they, but sadly Americans did that to ourselves

 

agree, Republicans would of been better off saying they wanted to release it but could not, releasing it just took all the air out of their conspiracy theories

I mean come on, Carter Page, seriously Republicans? this is who you want to be your poster boy of someone you think should not of been monitored by the FBI?

 

No. Nobody that didn't make up their mind a long time ago already gives a **** about this memo. If you know people have talked about it, you have never changed your mind on it.

 

and Republicans will believe the nonsense about dead people voting, thus will probably believe the memo too - lol

what would not surprise me it if Trump shut down his own investigation into voter fraud... cause he found out it was republicans doing the frauding

 

None of the above!

He was merely wrong!

 

oh really then what is all this russia hacked our elections bs you guys a spewing? So all that was a lie that you acknowledge correct?

 

There is evidence that the Russians hacked the voter rolls in multiple states.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/russia-election-hacking.html

 

Yeah, just nonsense...

CBS4 Investigation Finds Dead Voters Casting Ballots In Colorado

DENVER (CBS4) – A CBS4 investigation has found multiple cases of dead men and women voting in Colorado months and in some cases years after their deaths, a revelation that calls into question safeguards designed to prevent such occurrences.

You are really triggered by the idea that Dems would ever commit voter fraud! I love it! Meanwhile, I want voter fraud investigated and if Republicans are guilty I want them jailed, and if Democrats are guilty, I want them jailed. The reason you don't want voter fraud investigations is because you know which team is really doing the bulk of the voter fraud.

 

The choices, Devil A or Devil B. Perhaps A cyanide or B arsenic. That was the choices approximately a quarter of Americans faced if Gallup is to be believed that didn't want either, disliked both major party candidates. 8 million opted for choice C, a billion to one shot in the dark whether than voted for a devil or for someone poisonous to this country.

They're not smug, neither am I who also voted third party whether than vote for someone we deemed would be harmful to this nation. That would leave this nation worst off once either left office than when either first entered. We did what we could. The thing is 85% of those who voted third party back in 2016 would do so again today or not vote at all. That's satisfaction in your vote, not smugness.

Here is some other interesting tid bits.

Clinton beat Trump 48-46 in 2016, in the redo poll 46% of those asked said they voted for Clinton 43% for Trump, their revote came out in a 40-40 tie.

Clinton received only 72% of those who said they voted for Clinton in 2016 vs. 84% of those who voted for Trump still would do so today.

Here's the kicker: (Almost all of the Democrats who would no longer vote for Clinton would opt for a third choice — 9 percent go to Gary Johnson, Jill Stein or someone else — while the others would not pick a candidate. Trump does not pick up any of this support)

The third party vote if there was a redo election today would be much higher than the 6% they received in 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...win-the-2016-election/?utm_term=.ba319112678a

It's not smugness, it is total dissatisfaction with both candidates our two major parties offered. What do you expect when only 36% of all Americans viewed one of the major candidates in a positive light going up against another candidate only 38% viewed positive or in a favorable light. When both candidates unfavorables are around 60%.

The fact is our two party system, both major parties gave the electorate candidates they didn't want as their next president, most of the electorate held their nose and voted for the candidate they least wanted to lose. Not to win, but least wanted to lose.

 

In the US system, voting 3rd party is voting none of the above. So...OK, you've made your point. Now go get your "Don't blame me I voted for" bumper sticker and drive around feeling full of...satisfaction.