Wisconsin appeals court upholds 'right-to-work' law, dealing blow to unions

Not in right-to-work states; they pay nothing but take advantage of representation when they get into trouble at work, plus they get the wages bargained for in addition to the material benefits bargained for as well. They are nothing more then freeloaders.

 

Just another intelligent statement.

 

You obviously have no clue of what you are talking about on this subject. Read up before you post.

 

The union doesn't "protect" them, the union represents them.

 

Ha, are you saying people in non union jobs have no right? And I'm not jealous because I don't enjoy rights in my work place because you just said HR justifies everything I do, so I don't need no stinking rights.

Wow! I don't know where you work, but HR's main function is to avoid lawsuits on the company and legally justify personnel decisions.

No, there is no memo, there's also no memo telling the workers who among them to like and not like, yet they all seem to know. But I tell you this, there was a memo from the union to the employees to do whatever they could to tie up management with useless issues. It was carefully written so those words weren't specifically used, but anyone reading it knew what it meant. The best part of the memo was where it said in large letters, twice, DO NOT PRINT and someone did and left it on the printer.

Isn't that the very thing you defend with your welfare queens?

 

Wrong again. The union can protect their members by filing grievances, going to arbitration or outright suing the company.

 

No one can stop someone being ostracized whether or not they maintain union membership. I know of people in the union who, because of their personality, are ostracized by their fellow co-workers.

 

True. My best guy was ostracized for two reasons, he was constantly the best performer as well as being a total D-Bag.

 

I'm generally pro private union. I think right to work laws are a violation of freedom of association. I'm nearly always on the side of labor in dealing with corporations as well.

That said, at some point union leadership became a full time job. Bosses realized they could extract dues from members and pay themselves much higher salaries, grease the palms of politicians, and gain gain political power. So you have a guy like this


Who pulls down a six figure salary representing workers who earn less than $40k a year.

 

Steve, that's great you have HR justify everything everything you do; this is why unions exist and I'm glad you don't "need no stinking rights" right now; perhaps someday when your beloved company screws you, you might actually come to understand why you need rights in the workplace. Right now you have nothing. Zero, zip, blank.

Thank you for proving my point.

Why don't you post it for everyone here to see or PM me and send me a copy of it? That might add more credibility to your position.

Steve, you really need to drop this welfare queens stuff you post, you're not impressing anyone and only making your credibility drop a few more points. Debate the issue with real information instead of speculation and deflection.

 

Steve, am i going to have to school you on how labor unions represent their members?? Filing a grievance is a part of the representation process as outlined in labor law. My goodness you really need to read up on this topic.

 

Finally, you are starting to make some sense here; i'd almost written you off as hopeless.

 

I have no say with private Unions. Public unions on the other hand for the most part are thieves. I could not stand them during my 23 years in the Army and now that I am a government contractor my dislike for them is valid.

Under performing leadership does not even begin to describe most of them. Some civil servants are good but many are just terrible. My experience is directly related with the Air Force and Army CE to include the Corp of Engineers.

 

If that is the case as you maintain, then why haven't the workers voted in a new "boss"?? One who does't sleep,, grease the palms of politicians and gain political power.

 

Please tell me why they are thieves. What have they done to incur your wrath??

So who hired these under performing employees?? Certainly not the union; the union just has a legal obligation to represent them and bargain their labor agreements. Which reminds me, when they bargained the contracts, did the government agency responsible agree to these horrific contracts??

 

Go sale your crap elsewhere. Civil servants in general are spoiled, lazy minded, overpaid and do very little work in the field I am in. God forbid the weather, after hours, Holidays, Sick leave, Vacation, Staff meeting, Annual classes.......****, they are never at work to get anything done.

 

Just proves that you are speaking out of ignorance on the issue; you shouldn't be posting this crap unless your well versed as to why they shouldn't enjoy rights in the workplace. sorry if I caught you off guard.

 

It's not that they're no longer needed, they've just been rendered obsolete. Workers don't have the bargaining power they once had, they're not really in the position to be making demands. The big employers can go pack up and move production to China. Many service industries like telemarketing, customer support, and even legal research have moved to India.

 

I will post what I want, in truth. Does it hurt?

 

This is like asking why the neighborhood doesn't "vote in" a new protection racket crime family.

 

that most likely will not happen; Trump has promised to keep jobs in America, so we shouldn't have to worry about that. Plus service industry jobs like you mentioned are jobs that pay around $10 per hour if we are lucky so they minor in the big picture of things; Better paying jobs such as jobs in the medical field, research, communications, teaching, etc cannot be easily transferred overseas if at all.

 

If it was the truth, then yes it might hurt but so far all you've posted are lies and opinions. they don't hold any water at all; in the meantime you go ahead and post whatever you want, but I'll call you out on each post I read that is untrue. How does that sound?

 

Not at all. Florida is a right to work state. We don't have to put up with this ish.

 

That's true; you get to work for peasants wages, have no rights in the workplace and no say in your future. glorious future isn't it?? Hey but at least your happy.

 

Unions are just like any other organization that has power. Some are corrupt, some aren't. That doesn't make the concept wrong, just the implementation.

That said, I have a serious issue with public unions, as they are essentially using their power on the very people who pay them.