Won't Leave? Well then do this america haters.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Jonsa, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It mentions the right to own property. Just ask the Cuban refugees that came to America even without there wedding rings because the government owned them. That is exactly where the squad wants to take us.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Capitalism invests and innovates to create jobs. I have benefited from both. But then again, I am a free man!
     
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    Before the 2016 election, scores of Hollywood "stars" happily stated that if Trump won, they would be leaving the country. Well, Trump won and none of them left unfortunately. They should have gone to Canada. But then, they would have quickly come back, because who could really live there?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only difference is, our education system makes the word "Socialism" more palatable.
     
  5. JakeStarkey

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    JakeStarkey said: We have been a social democracy for more than 100 years, so, no, that is not so. Capitalism steals money from the workers, while libertarianism would brutalize those not having the economic means to resist the "society of equals."

    The right wing want a form of fascism where the GOP leadership directs a union of business and government that rules the workers.

    Fascism is a progressive form of political and governmental policies that have left- and right-wing expressions.

    Capitalism of course steals the value of the laborer, as our economic history well documents.
     
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    We do not need haters in America. Besides learn what Trump tweeted and come back.
     
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    I hear AOC is ready for lift off!
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  8. XploreR

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    1. Anti-Semitism IS hate, but public statements in opposition to current Israeli policies under Netanyahu, isn't anti-semitic. It's the simple exercise of freedom of speech.
    2. Socialism coupled with capitalism is a very good idea to help alleviate the excessive economic disparity that currently exists in America today--a problem caused by unregulated capitalism. Socialism is NOT incompatible with the US Constitution. In fact, many statements in the Preamble are socialist in nature.
    3. So, you're saying, if someone disagrees with the party or leaders currently in power, they should not be made welcome. In other words, differences of opinion, or points of view, should not be allowed. How is that compatible with democratic ideals? How is that compatible with the US Constitution? The biggest threat to that U.S. Constitution right now is Trump & his minions currently in power. They are degrading the institutions of government & the Constitution itself.
     
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    Capitalism survives by taking from the worker & the customer as much money as it possibly can, to give to the wealthy who own & control the businesses, the stocks, & the politicians, & thru them, the governmental agencies that make & enforce the laws. You're right that we're NOT a social democracy. But our "representative republic" represents only the wealthy among us--NOT the average American. I can't think of one single thing Trump or the Republican Party has done since Trump became President, that wasn't done to serve the wealthiest class at the expense of the workers.
     
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    Capitalism, love it or scram.
     
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    We have always been a Federal Republic.
     
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    Can you cite where anyone said that criticizing Trump means you have to leave the country. I thought cristisizing the president just made you a racist.
     
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    Not only that but “socialism” has become a catch cry for when they actually mean to say “I want to dodge my social responsibilities
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Marx was born in 1818. You were only a country for 48 years before Marx was born having become one through continual killing, something the US unfortunately has continued with throughout its short life despite the attempts of some of its best citizens. Prior to WW2 Nazism was strong in the US. Finding ourselves in a similar situation again, fascism rises again.
     
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    LMAO...What a load of twaddle.
    The people who created this country kept slaves, denied women the vote and then wrote an amendable Constitution.
    Only the most ignorant reactionary or coward would claim that the Constitution was written in stone or be so afraid of change. It shows a profound ignorance and fear of life. I actually feel sorry for reactionaries. They are paralyzed with fear and ignorance about life and they lack the strength of character to assume responsibility for their own lives, so they waste it blaming others for their shortcomings.

    This ain't a theocracy, it's a democracy.
    If they can't wrap their fevered brains around that simple concept, then maybe they're the ones who'd be happier in Russia or some other shithole country where everyone toes the line and never dares to complain.
    Maybe if the southern rebels had followed that cowardly advice, they would have just left their plantations and moved to a more slave-friendly part of the world. At least you can respect them for staying to fight for what they believed in, however wrong they were.
     
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    But,but but all of those things are WORK!

    They want to be like the great orange leader and promise to fix things, **** off to play golf then lie about how it is now all fixed
     
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    Where does the constitution discuss theft?
     
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    Where in the US constitution is theft mentioned, and what part of it defines socialism as theft?
     
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    No, that is slavery. In capitalism labor is paid for their work, although some might call that being a wage slave. As in all other economic systems, safeguards need to be in place to prevent abuse of the system.
     
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    Trying to turn the US into a version of the 1930s Germany it would seems.
     
  21. BillRM

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    So at the moment at least Anti-Semitism hate is not ok but instead Trump have given us one third of the human race to hate IE Muslims.

    Seems like a fair trade to me.
     
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    Well it would be damn nice to have national health care like every other advance nation on earth.

    That lack might just have some connection to our fairly low ranking in life span and Infant mortality

     
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    You what to kick Trump out of the country and send him to Putin due to him being a hater of all haters??????
     
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    Real Americans want him in criminal court.
     
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    Because libs don’t like brown people. Duh!
     
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