Won't Leave? Well then do this america haters.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Jonsa, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. Mac-7

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    Its interesting that the squad of socialist America haters are all refugees of children of refugees
     
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    Then demonstrate the supposed differences between the two standards.
     
  3. JakeStarkey

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    You cannot substantiate that, Mac-7.
     
  4. Doug1943

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    'Socialism' is now a meaningless term: in practice what most people mean by it is more social welfare measures (which generally, if not taken too far, make capitalism work better).

    It used to mean collective ownership of the means of production. Wherever this was tried, it didn't work, and the reason for this -- the 'Socialist Calculation Problem' -- was spelled out nearly a hundred years ago. Plus the spectacular success of capitalism in lifting the Third World, and especially formerly-socialist countries who got rid of socialism, out of extreme poverty, means that while there is plenty to complain about in capitalism, there is nothing to celebrate in (genuine) socialism.

    So now people who claim to still believe in the original meaning are like Christians who believe in heaven with its 72 virgins or whatever. They don't even try to explain how a planned economy, with no market, would actually work. It's just an emotionally-comforting faith.
     
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  5. JakeStarkey

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    The 'socialism' chant by the right has gained no traction whatsoever.
     
  6. doombug

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    It doesn't have to. The left has done a great job putting out the socialist message.
     
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  7. Moonglow

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    So it was wrong to elimate slavery because the founders allowed it, I just knew it!
     
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  8. Moonglow

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    Boy are you disalusioned if you think that capitalist don’t steal money through low wages and supplemental food from the govt. to help the workers, and they are the reasons why the illegals get work...derpa
     
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  9. Moonglow

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    Which industries have they nationalized? Is Fabian socialism your greatest fear?
     
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    I don't want people who legitimately hate America and my countries culture to run for office, volunteer for causes, start campaigns and movements, protest, or "stay here and fight".

    Europe did that and now they have daily terror attacks and people in office saying it's "Just part and parcel of living in the big city"

    I'd be much happier if people who despised America just left honestly XD
     
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  11. JakeStarkey

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    What we are hearing really is that certain people do not want people who disagree with them running for office or voting or standing up and saying, "I think you are wrong, we need to do it this way.
     
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    I'm not talking about liberals. I'm talking about people who want to bring Western Civilization crashing down and completely change my country and culture to fit their own radical ideas under the guise of "eliminating hate".
     
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    you referring to the people Trump called "fine people"?

    that were chanting "blood and soil, jews will not replace us"

    or the kkk Trump refused to denounce?

    the list goes on...
     
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    What a silly post. Democrats are running on socialism. Where have you been?
     
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  15. Moonglow

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    Which form of socialism are the dems running on?
    Do you know the difference?
     
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    You mean like people from Western civilization did to the inhabitants of this continent?
     
  17. PrincipleInvestment

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    You mean European asylum seekers?
     
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    No European invaders that killed the inhabitants to take what they have and destroyed their culture along with their way of life to include Americans doing it.....
     
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    Yeah, like almost every country has done in history at one point or another lol
     
  20. Infrared

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    Reminds me of the refugees coming into Europe, but the left doesn't make mistakes do they? :rolleyes:
     
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    Injun's shoulda put 'em in cages eh? ::):
     
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    Sure they make mistakes I don't know of a single human that doesn't, but what does that have to do with the history of immigration?
     
  23. Moonglow

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    Or they should have been Christians and God would have saved them..
     
  24. Moonglow

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    And it will happen to this country eventually it's a common theme with humans all over the Earth..
     
  25. Infrared

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    .....Because they are immigrants immigrating?
     

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