WSJ: Gulf States Led by Saudi Arabia Changing Attitude Towards Israel

RT? No, the information came from Israeli news outlets.. and those reports have been frequent over the years.

 

I'm sorry but I can't relate to punishments on adultry....I'm in my 40's married for 15 years, while never tried it myself, the possibilty of adultry is what brings a bit of interst after 15 years......, I dont think ppl need to be punished if they both agree on it.

But, if that's how the Iranians wish to live - it's fine by me, I guess anyone that disproves it can relocate, problem is what if a person made a"mistake", we are all human are'nt we ? should he or she be punished by law for this ? is'nt devorcing enough ?

 

Surely you can produce something........

 

That is all fine and dandy, but if you read the provisions I cited carefully, you would easily see that no one was ever really exposed to punishment for adultery unless they wanted to be for other reasons (such as taking a murder case and making it into something that can win them international sympathy). Otherwise, the penal code provisions clearly were meant to (a) deter anyone from accusing someone of adultery (or sodomy) and made it almost a strict liability offense to give testimony against someone for such offenses; (b) required either confessing 4 times in open court, or at a minimum 4 actual witnesses (2+ even in case of the minimum punishment) to the act and if one of the witnesses didn't show up, the rest of the witnesses could be charged for false accusation; and (c) the punishment could be annulled even if all these impossible criteria were met, if the person repented in a timely manner.

 

I highly doubt Iran has put anyone in Wahhabi Arabia in any danger, but if Wahhabi Arabia persists with its idiocy, that could change. Not just the Iranian regime, but many Iranians more generally, have had it with Wahhabi Arabia and its shenanigans. In fact, if anything, public opinion in Iran is a lot more hostile to Wahhabi Arabia than government policy.

 

Oh yes.. Iran has stirred up some Shia on the Arabian Peninsula for decades. I think the current tensions are strictly about Iran funding the al Houthis.

The Wahhabi in KSA are not militant.. You have an imaginary enemy.

 

Wow... almost makes me wanting to experience Iranian justice for myself. But then I remembered an eye for an eye judgment... no thanks.

 

highly doubtful, as most Hasids in Israel are anti-Zionist

 

I don't see any rise in religious extremism, just the opposite. I see a lot more Israelis tiring of the constant attacks and caring far less about world opinion, a trend growing in leaps and bounds all across the non-Islamo-Nazi world.

 

One thing they all have in common over there is their hatred for Iran. In the end, it might just unite Israel with the rest of the Arab led nations. None of them had any issue with Iraq invading Iran.

Iran needs to get rid of those radical terrorists at the head of their regime otherwise someone will do it for them. The sooner the better.

 

I apologize. I get terms mixed up.. All the reports about gov subsidized apartments in the Arab Quarter were about Haredi.

 

After Trump took a cane to the Saudi's they cough up $40B

Saudis Plan $40 Billion US Investment To "Cement Ties With Trump"

Having gone all-in on a Hillary Clinton victory ahead of the elections, Saudi Arabia has quickly pivoted in its "appreciation" of the Trump administration, and having realized that the fastest way to Trump's heart is through the US Treasury's bank account, it is preparing to invest an "unprecedented" amount of money in the US. According to Bloomberg, the Kingdom’s sovereign wealth fund will announce plans to "deploy as much as $40 billion into U.S. infrastructure." The investment will likely be unveiled as early as next week when Trump is scheduled to visit the kingdom.

While it is clear why Saudi Arabia is eager to appease Trump - after all the all important Aramco IPO is coming up, and the Saudis will be eager to open the world's biggest public offering in history to as many US accounts as possible while doing everything in their power to stay on America's good side. Saudi Arabia has consistently been the best customer of the US military-industrial complex for the past decade, and to claim that it had troubled relations with the previous administration is naive at best. What is certain, however, is that Saudi Arabia would have been delighted had Hillary Clinton become president, considering the millions in "donations" the Clinton Foundation received from Saudi Arabia and its peer Gulf states over the years.

Meanwhile, the kingdom claimed a “historic turning point” in bilateral relations after President Trump met Saudi Arabia’s Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in the White House earlier this year. On May 19, Trump will make his first foreign trip since taking office, visiting Saudi Arabia and Jerusalem before heading to Europe.

The Saudi funding may end up an anchor investment in Trump's massive $1 trillion infrastructure stimulus plan.

Trump in March offered his support for developing a new U.S.-Saudi program in energy, industry, infrastructure and technology that could be valued at more than $200 billion in direct and indirect investments within the next four years.

The president has said he intends to push for $1 trillion in U.S. infrastructure investments over the next decade, with $200 billion coming from taxpayers and the rest from the private sector.

Of course, it would be delightfully ironic if the Saudi billions end up being routed to fund new US shale technology, R&D and/or capex, in the process lowering the cost-curve of US oil producers even more...further eroding Saudi market share and boosting its budget deficit.

That would be vintage Trump, expand American oil production, and make the Saudi's pay for it!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-11/saudis-plan-40-billion-us-investment-cement-ties-trump

 

The biggest snake nests in the Middle East are in Riyadh, Tehran, and Tel Aviv.

 

I wouldn't believe anything written in zerohedge.

 

Baloney.. and you have never set foot in Riyadh or Tehran.

 

Tehran is a state sponsor of terrorism, and Saudis are the biggest exporter of terrorism.

 

Tehran funds Hezbollah, HAMAS and the al Houthis.

KSA has more obstacles to funding terror than you can imagine and the penalties are stiff.

 

Hamas, and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. If you don't agree, take it up with the State department, because it's been that way for ever. More Saudi citizens were in ISIS, and Al Qaeda, plus they export religious extremism to boot.

 

No most of ISIS were Baathists.. KSA never supported them.

AQ is Deobandi and quasi Muslim brotherhood.

Muslim brotherhood is outlawed in KSA since the 1970s.

If you're actually interested, do your homework.

 

Not even remotely the truth. Try harder next time.

 

LOLOL.. ISIS is Baathist and Sunni. It came out of Camp Bucca prison in Iraq in 2004 and later combined forces with AQ in response to the Maliki government. Both are dire enemies of Saudi Arabia.

The Saudis despise Baathism. Both ISIS and AQ have declared war on Saudi Arabia.. and ISIS has carried out over 20 suicide bombings in Arabia.. Many more have been twarted by the authorities and either killed or arrested.

You might want to read up on the Sons of Iraq to understand who's who in this disaster.

 

Would anyone of his own free will want to?

 

Mmmmh ... maybe this explains why Saudi Arabia is not on the ban list of Trump?

 

I have been to Tehran many times and KSA is a fascinating place. 40,000 Americans live and work there and they like it. Its a great place to raise a family and the schools are excellent.

 

Even Trump knows KSA is our oldest and staunchest ally in the Middle East... and partner with the US in stopping terrorism.