"You can’t make fun of faith"...did Pope just declare war on free speech!?

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  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You and I see this issue with the same objective eyes. This is just an example of the people in a society losing respect for others. That is all it is. We actually used to be more respectful, but those days are gone. So now the people that don't respect other people try to hide behind free speech. Just because free speech says you can say what in the hell you want, on a podium, does not mean that is a justification for showing disrespect.

    You cannot force people to be respectful of others. That is generally taught at home, and in school. Obviously we no longer teach it, but probably teach our youth to be disrespectful. Popular culture isn't teaching respect, quite the opposite.

    But to try to get these people on this forum who do not believe in respect, to change their minds, is like pissing into the wind. They like being disrespectful, it gives them some gratification obviously, and they will not give up what gratifies their self images.

    I once heard an odd saying from a young black guy. He said so and so was "shooting from behind the cross". I didn't understand it then, but later on finally understood what he was saying. It's like holding up free speech to justify ill manners, and disrespect. To justify a huge flaw in character
     
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    Oh, so now the evidence is not worth quoting.

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    Troll?
     
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    Ysunamis are caused by Sam Harris and The Gays.

    How very dare you, blaming that dear dear man, Jesus.
     
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    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    That is pure, unadulterated cow poo. I am sick to death of people pretending that criticism is an attempt to suppress freedom of speech. It's nothing of the sort. The Pope can say whatever malarkey he likes, and we are free to exercise our own freedom of speech to criticize what he says.
     
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    The Pope can't change the Bible. I don't know why you keep making this strange comment.
     
  6. FreedomSeeker

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    Can we both agree that psychological damage results from young children having sex with adults? If we can't even agree on this, then we are so far apart that one of us is HIGHLY WRONG (could be me, could be you, but one of us would be so wrong as to be delusional.)
     
  7. FreedomSeeker

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    Yes, Christian leaders Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell both blamed 9/11 on gays, or at least on American's not following some invisible man in the sky. Christians made these men their leaders at that time. Insane. I care for them and hope they will one day let science, reason, logic, and critical thinking guide their lives and not ancient fairy tales that scare them into believing unscientific stuff.

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    If he had a conscience he would....but he doesn't, so he won't.

    Only a person cowering in fear is too cowardly to improve a book.
     
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    Just like God can't defeat chariots of iron.
    Both sound incompetent.
    Judges 1:19: The LORD was with the people of Judah, and they took possession of the hill country. But they failed to drive out the people living in the plains, who had iron chariots.
     
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    Denouncing it would be the brave thing to do. Changing it would be pointless. Nobody would accept the changes.
     
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    If nobody would accept the changes it's because Christians are rotten to the core.
    Modern Secular Humanists would accept the changes., because they are far more moral than Christians.
     
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    What do you mean accept the changes? You are not making any sense. They would no that it is still not inspired by God, so in what way would they be accepting them?
     
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    how would they know this? the pope is as likely as anyone to recive divine inspiration. and christians believe every word of 'inspiration' recieved by those ancient goat herders, without knowing if it really was god inspiring them.
     
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    Goomba, who I like as a person, hasn't answered this question yet, but it's not really his fault, because MOST ALL Muslims that I've asked this question of over the years can't say that they are against young children having sex with adults (because answering "yes" would, indirectly, condemn Mohammad, and doing THAT would put their "after-life" at great risk, so they can't answer a simple question.) People deserve better than to be put in a position by a religion where they can't answer a simple moral question. Modern Secular Humanism is better than religions, because it never puts people in positions were they can't answer.
     

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