A Protons proper designation is a HADRON. I piece of DUST in the air is a Particle....and so are a LOT of other things. Should we start calling Celestial Bodies BALLS? LOL!!! AboveAlpha
I'm always open to consider different viewpoints and perspective, why not? Anyway, when fundamental achievements have got in science there is also the "envy effect" which can affect the reaction of other scientific environments. Remember that in philosophy of science a discovery or a theory which cannot be even partially disproved by means of rational analysis probably is false ... This means that, applying suitably complicated and extended math formalisms and models, you could find something at least odd in any existing theory [simply because a scientific theory / discovery is based on empirical experimental statistical observation and related math formalism, it's not an idealized abstraction of reality]. For example, the matter of fact that there is no certain way to put together quantum mechanics and relativity about gravity could even mean that one of the two main theories is based on not accurate [when not totally wrong] premises ... or that we miss a kind of "tensor theory" which could allow us to carry the matrix of gravity into the matrix of quanta ... and vice versa. So, so far [waiting for the development of these counter analysis] I can say that the Higgs boson has been discovered at CERN.
Well....we now know that the Higgs Field is what gives Hadrons Mass. We also know that Gravity is NOT a FORCE regardless of what anyone was ever taught. And those dual NASA Probes proved Einstein was correct and that Gravity is the Warping of our Universal Sapce-Time in a One Dimensional Fashion. And we also know that although we cannot definitively prove the Many Worlds and Multiversal Theories that they do cover all aspects of understandable to this point Quantum Mechanics and even the points we have no clue about does not change the fact that by using the Multiversal MODEL we have developed PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS. Thus this means we might not be able to prove it as of yet....but a Multiversal Model has allowed us to develop 100 and 1000 Quibit Quantum Computers and Cell Phones were the FIRST LARGE SCALE PRACTICAL ALICATION of such Models. Thus....the Monkey might not know how or even why a GUN goes BANG!...but the Monkey sure as HELL KNOWS when he pulls the trigger the GUN GOES BANG!! LOL!!! AboveAlha
Lol. Let's take a proton. The total mass of the proton is about 938 MeV/c2. The mass of the quarks, imparted by the Higg's Mechanism, is only about 12 MeV/c2, or around 1% of the total mass. How exactly does that equate to "Higg's Field is what gives hadrons mass"?
One of the biggest problems I see can be summed up in your commentary....we do not "KNOW" any of these things, we have evidences that can be used to flesh out theory. Granted, those who use rational thought and research the data will certainly find much of it to be likely....but that does not equate to "Knowing" it to be fact.
Yes, because it's made from atoms. - - - Updated - - - These are different particles. Look up degenerate particles, i.e. protons.[/QUOTE] All particles are not created equal.
Here you go if you really want it all. The Higgs boson or Higgs particle is an elementary particle in the Standard Model of Particle physics. Its main relevance is that it is the smallest possible excitation of the Higgs field[6][7] – a field that unlike the more familiar electromagnetic field cannot be "turned off", but instead takes a constant value almost everywhere. The presence of this field explains why some fundamental particles have mass while the symmetries controlling their interactions should require them to be massless, and why the weak force has a much shorter range than the electromagnetic force. Despite being present everywhere, the existence of the Higgs field has been very hard to confirm, because it is extremely hard to create excitations (i.e. Higgs particles). The search for this elusive particle has taken more than 40 years and led to the construction of one of the world's most expensive and complex experimental facilities to date, CERN's Large Hadron Collider,[8] able to create Higgs bosons and other particles for observation and study. On 4 July 2012, the discovery of a new particle with a mass between 125 and 127 GeV/c2 was announced; physicists suspected that it was the Higgs boson.[9][10][11] By March 2013, the particle had been proven to behave, interact and decay in many of the ways predicted by the Standard Model, and was also tentatively confirmed to have positive parity and zero spin,[1] two fundamental attributes of a Higgs boson. This appears to be the first elementary scalar particle discovered in nature.[12] More data is needed to know if the discovered particle exactly matches the predictions of the Standard Model, or whether, as predicted by some theories, multiple Higgs bosons exist.[3] The Higgs boson is named after Peter Higgs, one of six physicists who, in 1964, proposed the mechanism that suggested the existence of such a particle. Although Higgs's name has come to be associated with this theory, several researchers between about 1960 and 1972 each independently developed different parts of it. In mainstream media the Higgs boson has often been called the "God particle", from a 1993 book on the topic; the nickname is strongly disliked by many physicists, including Higgs, who regard it as inappropriate sensationalism.[13][14] On December 10, 2013 two of the original researchers, Peter Higgs and François Englert, were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for their work and prediction.[15] Englert's co-researcher Robert Brout had died in 2011 and the Nobel Prize is not given posthumously except in unusual circumstances. In the Standard Model, the Higgs particle is a boson with no spin, electric charge, or color charge. It is also very unstable, decaying into other particles almost immediately. It is a quantum excitation of one of the four components of the Higgs field. The latter constitutes a scalar field, with two neutral and two electrically charged components, and forms a complex doublet of the weak isospin SU(2) symmetry. The field has a "Mexican hat" shaped potential with nonzero strength everywhere (including otherwise empty space), which in its vacuum state breaks the weak isospin symmetry of the electroweak interaction. When this happens, three components of the Higgs field are "absorbed" by the SU(2) and U(1) gauge bosons (the "Higgs mechanism") to become the longitudinal components of the now-massive W and Z bosons of the weak force. The remaining electrically neutral component separately couples to other particles known as fermions (via Yukawa couplings), causing these to acquire mass as well. Some versions of the theory predict more than one kind of Higgs fields and bosons. Alternative "Higgsless" models would have been considered if the Higgs boson was not discovered. LINK...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson As well over 80% of the Gravity existing that allows Spiral Galaxies to not have their stars fly apart is Gravity generated via DARK MATTER. AboveAlpha
Also...understand that all Matter and it's Mass is in reality completely comprised upon it's smallest basis as Quantum Particle/Wave Forms of Energy. AboveAlpha
Great, so how does the proton get to 938 MeV/C2 from the 1% of mass provided by the Higg's Mechanism? I'm still waiting for the answer, not a Wikipedia article on the Higg's Boson. - - - Updated - - - Ok I'll just assume you can't answer the question.
Protons by themselves are Particles of Mass but a Proton must have at least one single Electron....which is a Quantum Particle Wave Form of Energy in it's Orbit around that Hydrogen Atom before it can be called Matter. Matter is comprised of Hadrons and Electrons. AboveAlpha
Around 75% percent of the Sun's mass is in the form of hydrogen plasma. That's hydrogen not bound to an electron (i.e. a proton) So you're saying 75% of the Sun is not matter? Interesting. Oh, and electrons don't "orbit".
Due to Quantum Chromodynamics, or QCD for short, and is the strong force counterpart to quantum electrodynamics (QED). As the proton is made up of three quarks – two up and one down – its mass is the mass of those quarks and the mass of binding energy. THAT'S HOW.....a Proton Mass 1.672 621 637(83) x 10 -27 kg, or 938.272013(23) MeV/c2, or 1.007 276 466 77(10) u (that’s unified atomic mass units). AboveAlpha - - - Updated - - - Call it Orbits or NT Fields...whatever. And NO....a Proton without an Electron in an Orbital or NT Field is NOT MATTER. AboveAlha
So this statement, "Well....we now know that the Higgs Field is what gives Hadrons Mass" isn't quite right, is it? - - - Updated - - - Stars aren't made of matter, cool.
All particles are not created equal.[/QUOTE] Oh please!!! AboveAlpha - - - Updated - - - Your right...I should have stated what we KNOW so far. AboveAlpha
Whether I use the word Hadrons or the names of the Quantum Particle/Wave Forms comprising any such Hadrons does not effect the reality. AboveAlpha
The reality is 99% of the mass of the proton (a specific hadron) does not come from the Higg's Mechanism.
I just detailed out IN DEPTH what gives a Proton it's mass. You talk about a Proton like it exists as a single entity...it does NOT. AboveAlpha
What do you think gives the quarks a proton is made up of....three quarks – two up and one down...their Mass and thus allows QCD's mass of binding energy???? No Higgs Field....no QCD!!! AboveAlpha
The binding energy has NOTHING to do with the mass of the quarks. That's like saying the charge of an electron depends on its mass.
You don't get it. You cannot have even the existence of QCD Binding Energy if those quarks do not obtain mass fromthe Higgs Field. The Quark/Gluon Bonding and as well QCD exists because those Quarks which are Quantum Particle/Wave Forms with MASS unlike the Quantum Particle/Wave Forms without Mass such as Photons which have no Mass could not QCD Bond. AboveAlpha
Absolutely false. Quarks interact with gluons, which are massless. Gluons can interact with themselves under QCD, no mass required. Why? Because both quarks (with mass) and gluons (no mass) have color charge. Binding Energy has NOTHING to do with the mass of the particles involved, only the color charge. It's been predicted that there are hadrons that don't contain quarks at all, only massless gluons. That hadron would not be massless.
