You CAN turn energy into matter!

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  1. 10A

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    So those people that I talk to that no one else sees are possibly real? They are just energy and my mind is so sophisticated that I can detect them even though everyone tells me they aren't really there? This means that they could just be energy or "ghosts". I am not crazy..........WHEEEEEEEEE!:clapping:
     
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    #1 I said they were predicted, and the prediction is very strong. The Higg's Boson was hypothetical, until it wasn't. The positron was theoretical, until it wasn't. Mesons were theoretical, until they weren't.
    #2 I never said they were protons or neutrons. I said the binding energy of a proton has NOTHING to do with the mass of the quarks. Try to keep up.
     
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    There is no such thing as energy there is only mass.
     
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    The BINDING ENERGY OF A PROTON???

    You mean the QCD Bonds that create an Energy state mass between the 3 Quarks that have to have mass first given to the by the Higgs Field before they can even be bonded as per QCD!!!

    When Protons BOND....that is called FUSION and more than just 2 Hydrogen Atoms are required to be fused into Helium in a Star or in a Thermonuclear Bomb.

    If you recall this whole thing was about your statement that Protons by and of themselves were MATTER.

    They are NOT.

    Matter is a combination of in Hydrogens case a Single Proton that has a single ELECTRON which is a Quantum Particle/Wave Form of Energy that tends to to exist in Nature as H2...as two Hydrogen nucleuses each one a single Proton share a single Electron Orbital Fieldor NT Field of TWO ELECTRONS as the first orbit is FULL when it has 2 Electrons in it and H2 exists as a Elemental Molecular Gas.

    But reguardless....all Protons or Neutrons and all Matter is comletely comprised of ENERGY as Matter is comprised upon the Quantum Level of Particle/Wave Forms of Energy.

    A single Proton without an Electron in it's Orbit IS NOT MATTER.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Now if the scientists could figure how to break down Dr McCoy body in to energy and then load it into a quantum entanglement transmitter we could send him to the other side of the universe instantly.

    On a serious note (lol).....


    I will get back to you's when I wake up.....

    reva
     
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    This, while the speculation of science fiction, isn't really about creating matter from energy so much as it is relates to 3-D printing at the subatomic level. In theory the human body could be disassembled and "mapped" at one location (think of this as reverse 3-D printing) and then that information could be transmitted to another location and re-assembled using the "map" with subatomic 3-D printing. All of our being, including our memory, is contained in the molecules, atoms, electrons, and subatomic particles that we're made of and that information can, in theory, be transmitted between location and then reassembled with subatomic 3-D printing.

    Matter does not have to be created from energy because matter can be converted into other forms of matter. We can "build the chicken from the egg" so to speak.
     
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    Well photons always travel at the speed of light (though that speed varies based on the medium it passes through). You wouldn't need a particle accelerator because there's nothing to accelerate.
     
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    True enough, the speed of light is named for a reason.

    But I assume they also have to control the path of the photons so that they actually hit instead of fly past each other, and perhaps modify their energy level or color temperature to be in range of a specific target. Whatever the math shows.
     
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    Do photons even collide in such a way? I'd imagine not, but I'm not sure.
     
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    That's a good question, and I don't know.

    I assume that a wild photon out in nature probably doesn't collide with other photons very often. It's more likely to be absorbed first by another material. Due to the odd dual nature of a photon as both a particle and a wave, two waves might overlap each other, but as far as the particle portion of the photon goes, eh, the chance of two particles colliding in the same space at the same time is probably not so much.
     
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    This, of course, is an assumption of a fact not in evidence.

    Not sure it even makes sense to talk about massless particles colliding.
     
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    I think you're confusing Mass with Density. It's not the case that the Photon is impossibly thin to the point of non-existence.

    Mass is actually a measure of resistance to acceleration, not how big old fat it is. So a photon with zero mass can accelerate to the speed of light without trouble.

    Notice that the maximum speed of Photons in spacetime is the Speed of Light and not infinity? There's something strange about that. It's just something I've noticed, but I know nothing about the reasoning behind it.
     
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    Matter is anything that occupies space and has mass. So a single proton, a lone electron, neutrino etc is matter. Photon's don't actually exist. They're a mathematical construct, a way of thinking about packets of e-m radiation as if they were matter (while realizing they're not).

    Not sure how you'd "collide" two photons.




     
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    You are quite mistaken, trust me.

    I never said a word about physical dimensions, so I don't know where this is coming from.

    If the speed of light is constant, how can a photon accelerate?
     
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    I don't know.
     
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    I'd like to say that photons are in a race: Photon acceleration.

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    (No fair you changed the outcome by measuring it!)​
     
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    No, they aren't. You don't get it. Try again?
     
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    Oh please[/QUOTE]
    I can't help but notice that you didn't provide any reasonable rebuttal. Care
    to try or are you going to post a half dozen non answers until you come to the
    point that you finally realize you're wrong?

    Dare I say, next non answer in 3... 2... 1...
     
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    Seems they would cancel each other as in the double slit experiment.

    Maybe one day we might be able to make whatever we want with a personal replicator - like a 3D printer, but able to create any element or alloy.

    Seems out there, and it is - but in the long term (1000yrs+) we're probably like those early computer scientists saying future computers will be enormous and expensive. We have had like 150 years of electricity. Imagine what we could do with 1000.
     
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    Yes, in a 1000 years from now we'll be very advanced compared to today.

    If we can ever get a supply of matter going, the 3D printer is probably the next stop for flakes of the stuff. That or a furnace to melt it down into solid blocks.

    In the double slit experiment the photons are entangled and don't interfere with each other. Wild photons in nature aren't entangled so you don't have the same effect. Since they aren't linked I imagine they WILL interfere with each other when they collide instead of cancel out like you think.
     
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    Where do you get that idea?

    Then why does the experiment produce an interference pattern?
     
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    The idea of double-slit is to show Quantum entanglement. Otherwise it's the classic version of the double slit that doesn't produce quantum craziness.

    I'm operating under the assumption that the waves of entangled particles don't interfere with each other because they are part of the same system link. Because I heard that a quantum wave doesn't interfere with itself.
     
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    A Photon has ZERO MASS.

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