"You don't need that" from foriegners

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    how do you know who is a "nutter" before they do something crazy?

    what you all did was a have a collective bed wetting and destroyed lots of guns that you confiscated from good people
     
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    It is important to note that many horrible disfiguring injuries occur from unarmed attacks !
    I have seen this first hand many times, people stomped into mush, teeth knocked out, limbs snapped like stale bread sticks, massive bleeding, yet some would say guns are unnecessary, the Police will protect you !

    A NYPD Lieutenant told some teens to stop making noise in front of his home, he was unarmed, the teens stomped him so badly, it took much surgery to repair his skull and cervical spine.... unarmed is not wise..
     
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    I like that, Bowerbird is a Nurse, yet casually dismisses people as "Nutters" , it is easy to deny Arms to anyone for many reasons, however, when you have responded to as any crime scenes as I have, seen as many dead unarmed victims, it changes your point of view.

    I grew up in an Anti Gun family, yet at age 10, I logically deduced that Gun control made no sense.
     
  4. Battle3

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    And yet Australia has more crime than before the ban, just as many felonious mass killings after the ban as before, and higher crime rates than the USA.
     
  5. Bowerbird

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    No people voluntarily gave up guns they did not want nor need

    And how can it be a bad thing not to have mass shootings?

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    WRONG!!!!
     
  6. Bowerbird

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    Oh! I have seen gunshot injuries - but so few that an American nurse would be gobsmacked because they see so many. We have fewer gunshot injuries per year in the whole of the country than you do in one night in a major city

    And you think WE are wrong??
     
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    Yes ! you are wrong ! I have worked many shootings in the E.R. NYC, in a medical capacity, today, I thought, let me go enjoy a nice Country walk, on a lonely deserted road, a rabid dog foaming at the snout staggered out, I had My Glock 17 in it's holster, no need for handguns, right ?

    Well as a retired Police Officer, I can legally carry anywhere in the U.S. or it's territories, so I had to put down that poor unfortunate dog, there was not time to make a cell phone call, it could keep on staggering along and bite a child or unarmed adult walking down the roads, so tell me again how nobody needs a small concealable handgun ???? Hmm ?
     
  8. OrlandoChuck

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    Were people allowed to keep all the firearms that they DID want or need without repercussions?
     
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    Nope ! They keep saying nobody needs a small concealable handgun, and today, I proved them all WRONG !!!!


    If I had not had My Glock on My walk, I would not have been able to put down that rabid dog, so I want people to tell me how I do not need a gun, or a small concealable handgun....

    Or how you need to have a license to carry a concealed handgun issued in Los Angeles, if you live in NYC, that restriction makes absolutely no sense whatsoever !!!
     
  10. Bowerbird

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    As long as they registered and followed the legislation they were allowed to keep the armaments - not really difficult to obtain a legal licence here but most do not bother because of the need for a safe for the gun

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    How do you know it was rabid? Is rabies so prevalent? Sorry that is another thing we do not have here
     
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    So one did not need to surrender their firearms as long as they registered them and provided a safe. Is that what you are contending?

    A small handgun safe isn't that expensive.
     
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    Yes, how did I know the dog was rabid ? it was foaming from its mouth, staggering around and filthy and snarling and snapping ! it wandered out of some bushes, no, there are no stray dogs in Australia ! You will never encounter a stray dog ! You will never need a small concealable handgun ! If you find yourself alone on a roadway, or running alongside a Country road, no, you will never need a small concealed handgun in a holster !!!

    Well, I needed my Glock today !!! I thank G-d I had My Glock on my side today !!!!! So, I could be a flaming hypocrite since I am personally exempt from most laws relating to carry of firearms as I am a retired LEO, however, I strongly believe everyone has the Right to carry anywhere in the U.S. regardless whether or not it is your State of residence !!!!
     
  13. Maccabee

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    And that's one of the hoops I'm talking about. Also it proves OP. you guys don't think you can use it for self defense but you can use it for hunting (sport) or for pest control by a professional.

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    Only in the inner cities.
     
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    Nope, you're wrong. Since the 20 years after the 1996 incident you guys had 11 massacres. Twenty years before the incident you had 13. Only two less since you guys implemented gun control.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia
     
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    so if i had a gun that the bed wetters in government wanted to ban I could keep it and reject their forced confiscation buy back
     
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    No and most who surrendered weapons just simply could not be bothered with even that amount of work. See we just simply do not feel the need to go armed. Carrying a gun around everywhere sounds like WAAAAY too much hard work when it is not really needed. Because we are unlikely to face a gun we do not feel we need a gun
     
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    Lots did - they buried them in poly pipe in the back yards. Government was not interested in doing a house to house sweep as long as the guns were secured and OFF the streets they were happy. However if you are found with an unregistered weapon or someone uses your weapon in a felony and you have not reported it stolen

    Then your arse belonga copper
     
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    Counting from the Spring Hill massacres to the Port Arthur massacre (20 years approx) there were 15 That is if you include the Spring Hill massacre which does not fit FBI definition

    Since then, according to Wiki there have been 11 but that includes a serial killing (Snowtown murders and I have to question why if Snowtown is included post 1996 the Milat murders were not included before 1996) One bushfire, three other fires - where there is no evidence of homicidal intent and four incidents which do not fit the FBI criteria

    That wiki page also misses the incident in Alice Springs where 16 people were murdered
     
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    people should resist such idiocy

    governments that do that sort of crap don't deserve to remain in power.
     
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    It does not affect the average person - those who want or need guns can get most varieties - everything they would need and those who are doing naughty things with guns - well the cops have one more charge they can get them on

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    It does not affect the average person - those who want or need guns can get most varieties - everything they would need and those who are doing naughty things with guns - well the cops have one more charge they can get them on

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    It does not affect the average person - those who want or need guns can get most varieties - everything they would need and those who are doing naughty things with guns - well the cops have one more charge they can get them on

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    It does not affect the average person - those who want or need guns can get most varieties - everything they would need and those who are doing naughty things with guns - well the cops have one more charge they can get them on
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL that sort of looks OCD. might want to edit your response
     
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    No, Bowerbird would rather ban guns, she does not bother to think past let us ban all guns !
     
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    Couldn't ruddy internet slowed to zero then posted that mess then fell over
     
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    Lol, you sure have lots of excuses, no matter, you can always ban some moar guns !
    Nobody needs guns !
    Nobody needs small concealable handguns !
     
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    You are still denying the truth even after years of proving you are wrong.

    AUS did not voluntarily give up their firearms, they were banned by the govt. Almost all semi-auto centerfire rifles plus many semi-auto shotguns and pump action shotguns are banned, they are now considered Category D which are basically only allowed to the govt. The same with handguns, most calibers are banned (I believe thats Category H).

    AUS traded mass shootings for mass killings (same number of mass killings in the 20 years before the ban as the 20 years since the ban), although there have been 2 mass shootings since 1996 when the gun ban went into full effect.

    The following (once again) show the AUS violent crime and homicide rates (from the AUS govt crime reports) and the USA rates (from the FBI UCR). AUS suffered a massive crime wave which started immediately after the 1996 gun ban. While AUS violence increased, the USA relaxed its gun laws and crime decreased >50%.

    More guns, less crime.

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