While I would like to continue with "playing the devils advocate", logic is taking over. Non prefessionals need soccer balls to become professional.
As long as they keep them in a locked container, belong to an approved sporting club, and undergo a background check we can issue miniature ones to practice with.
You forget one, Declared persona non grata via commission of certain crimes, like violation of Civil or Human Rights. http://www.dawn.com/news/379148/new-law-allows-deportation-of-naturalized-us-citizens "Also on Tuesday, federal agents in Atlanta arrested a prominent Ethiopian human rights abuse suspect and put him in deportation proceedings, for the first time using legal powers granted under a newly-signed intelligence reform law."
"Thinking one should tuck their tails between their legs and sulk away and leave the bad neighborhoods to the thugs who terrorize it sounds like weakness to me." That's because you completely miss-read what i meant. "tuck their ball between their legs", "sulk away", "thugs who terrorise" - Do you always talk like a move script? Nobody sulks away from anything, we just don't need guns to feel safe or protected like other people seem to. So few of us have guns that its not important to own one to feel protected or safe. If we enjoyed gun ownership to the same extent that americans do then i'm sure our opinions on gun ownership would be very similar to that in America but for historical and cultural reasons, we just don't look at guns in the same way.
Interesting .. didn't know about that one, though again is or has George Soros been charged or convicted of anything that could result in this?
Just because you and yours feel safe in your particular area does not mean that everyone else in the world should think and feel the same on gun and crime issues. In fact, your gun control laws are completely worthless in violent cities and areas of the world. When a large percent of an area is morally debased, have a culture of gangs and thuggery, and are not kept under control by a strong police and court system, then you will have massive crime. I think an older person who has lived in their own home for 50 years and has seen their neighborhood decline into a gangster safe zone should have every right to be afraid, and unlike you, I would not strip them of their right to carry a gun on their person on in their home. In your fantasy world, you must think the police can instantly materialize like in Star Trek whenever a crime happens.
That is a load of Political posturing, no one is that naive, it is not possible, a Gun is needed as I saw a few weeks ago when a rabid dog staggered out of some bushes, and I had to dispatch it. No, the purpose of a gun is not to "Feel" safe, it is a tool meant to achieve safety. Gun control advocates "Feel" Gun control is useful, this feeling is not based on facts, only political agenda designed to induce an emotional response and shame ignorant people into calling for more Gun control.
I live in the Netherlands. We have very strict gun control legislation. I have no need for a gun, I have never encountered someone with a gun nor do I know of anyone who owns or has seen a gun (except on police and military personnel). I do not feel unsafe and have never fallen victim to serious crime. That being said, when I would live in the US, it would be a whole different story. Since guns are so widespread, it is only logical that criminals will be carrying firearms. If gun control legislation were to be implemented, it would take years for the guncount amongst criminals to diminish to acceptable levels, thereby increasing unsafety for that duration. Next to that, wildlife in the US is a lot "wilder" than here in the Netherlands. We do have stray animals, but I have never seen or heard of recent cases of rabies. Long story short: let America keep their Right to Bear Arms, and let us in The Netherlands be safe in our "gunfree" land. No need to project or extrapolate our situation on others.
yet, it is that relative anarchy that seems to be the problem. well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State.
However did you come up with that, right wing think tank argument? The security and domestic tranquility of a free State, affects everyone within that State.
I post that everyone has the right to protect themselves. You bring up Chicago. I ask if you mean that Chicago doesn't have that right, otherwise why would you bring up Chicago. You bring up something about a free state. I still cant tell if you support the individual right to protect ones self or not. You are clear as mud.
this is the point: yet, it is that relative anarchy that seems to be the problem. well regulated militia are necessary to the security of a free State.
"Why do you need a gun like an AR15?" It's not about need, it is my second amendment right to own such a rifle. "But 'assault weapons' aren't necessary for hunting." First of all it is not an "assault weapon" and secondly, the second amendment isn't about hunting; it is about defending liberty from tyranny. "So you're worried that a tyrant is going to take away your guns and your liberty?" NO, actually I am not.... because we have the SECOND AMENDMENT.
Which has no relevance to the discussion pertaining to the crime in the city of Chicago. Private firearms ownership is not responsible, not contributory, to violent crime. It is completely unrelated.
Circular and meaningless How does a gun defend your liberty I ran if guns do not kill people then how can they defend liberty?
You are quite correct, your comment was indeed; " Circular and meaningless " - - - Updated - - - It made no sense; it was, "Circular and meaningless"
I want to add something to this: Two days ago, in Georgia, a statewide candidate for public office threw in the towel and didn't even run against his challenger. It was reported that George Soros had donated $100,000 to the liberal Democrat's campaign. Foreigners are imposing their standards on us. http://zpolitics.com/republican-d-a...ros-donates-six-figures-to-henry-co-democrat/
Apparently it is OK if the foreign money goes to support Democrats. They apply the same standards when complaining about the NRA and totally ignore the $50 million Bloomberg dumps into anti gun candidates.
And that $ 50,000,000 is only the tip of the iceberg, Brady and VPC and others raise countless Millions to secure Gun control policies and elect Liberal Democrat Candidates that favor taking away your Guns !
Still clear as mud. Cant tell if you believe in the right of the people to keep and bear arms. A simple yes or no would be much more clear. No need to bring up anything about a militia, I fully understand your position on that, as you have already made that known on a zillion posts.
It is completely relevant, except to the fantastical, right wing. How many, well regulated militia patrols are there in Chicago? - - - Updated - - - The People are the Militia.
