Zimbabwe's latest crisis

Thank you for CONFIRMING that you are just pulling your "definitions" from your nether regions.

 

Fish and birds were doing that long BEFORE we came down out of the trees.

 

Why the heck are you not back in Africa then?

 

We are thinking of going one day.

 

Because of Calvinism, because of Jan van Riebeck, because of the Great Trek, because of British colonization, because of the Boer War, because of Apartheid, because of the ANC, because of black rule, because of Nelson Mandela, or ....... ?

 

I could have gone back to Africa in the middle ages and enjoyed
their 'global travel.'

 

I would not call the Arab Spring a "class struggle". Just as with Operation TP Ajax in Iran I am fairly certain there are a few men wearing dark suits & ties with sunglasses lurking about in the shadows of the Arab Spring.

 

You didn't mention the great Bantu migration and 'displacement'
or the brutal Zulu wars and the resulting 'displacement.'

Of course, the 'end of South Africa', if it happens, won't be through
some meteor strike but likely the rise of the anti-white, anti Capitalist,
Zimbabwe style of leadership.

 

Interesting topic. While there is no doubt that local events such as drought or flood can cause severe short term hardship and humanitarian crisis .. The fact that we can not get a bowl of rice a day in to every mouth on the planet - is a human driven disaster for sure.

If you want to dig deeper into the PC cesspool - and cancel culture failures - for which the radical left has now tried to cancel /demonize Michael Moore ... who is now flaming red on the spectrum compared to these folks ...

Industrialization and Population growth are the prime drivers of the increase in 1) Ocean/Air Pollution and 2) Carbon emissions.

If you have any doubt - ask yourself what would happen to the Carbon/Pollution equation if there were 1 billion people on the planet verses 8.5 in 2030.

but apparently Blue can not seem to figure this out .. and has demonized Moore stating reality - in denial of science and logic.

Worst than Population Growth - but related - is industrialization. While somewhat more complicated to explain than the above example - this is the number one driver of increases to the Pollution/CO2 equation.

When you get a bowl of rice a day into every mouth - you can stop population growth - (or at least this is one way - and likely the most desirable way - another option being China's one-child policy)

What you do not want to do however - is encourage industrialization.

Does this seem unfair to you ? Of course it is unfair. As per the first scene in the Lion King "Life's Not Fair". That this is unfair - will not change the fact that it is reality .. and the PC crowd can not handle this reality .. which is the prime reason why Blue's environmental policy is so horrible - and the reason this fence sitter sided with Red this election .. . the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak.

Blue is now the Anti Environment party. This is not to say that Red is any good .. but that Blue is so horrible.

 

WOW! You seem very upset about Mr Moore. I am aware that he has come infor a lot of criticism for his climate film. I watched a little and found it too boring so, having seen how upset this has made you I put in a search for what has made people so upset.

Seems people believe he has been giving the deniers a gift.

How did Michael Moore become a hero to climate deniers and the far right? | Michael Moore | The Guardian

It does sound like he has got this one wrong. Just out of interest are you a 'climate denier'?

 

WOW! You seem very upset about Mr Moore. I am aware that he has come infor a lot of criticism for his climate film. I watched a little and found it too boring so, having seen how upset this has made you I put in a search for what has made people so upset.

Seems people believe he has been giving the deniers a gift.

How did Michael Moore become a hero to climate deniers and the far right? | Michael Moore | The Guardian

It does sound like he has got this one wrong. Just out of interest are you a 'climate denier'? I was by the way listening to someone a week or two ago who asserted strongly that there is more that sufficient food in the world to feed all the people. That some are dying of hunger is a choice according to him.

 

For the most part we CAN feed people, except for war and ideology.
Read somewhere that obesity is now becoming a problem in sub-Sahahara.

 

Er... can anyone deny climate? I mean, it does exist, doesn't it?

 

There are hundreds of millions on this planet - to which we can not get a bowl of rice a day .. and a few billion more who have barely that much.

but - feeding these folks is just the beginning of the problem. Read a study over a decade ago - at the time there was 1.4 Billion industrialized - out of a population of 7 Billion.

Note that almost all of the CO2 emissions are produced by the 1.4. The study looked at consumption .. China at the time was (11) - the first world (36) - someone eating a bowl of rice a day in Africa (1)

Study stated that if China was to reach first world level of consumption - world resource production would have to double.

We can feed people - this is the easy part - the problem however is the biproducts of consumption - as the rest of the world industrializes - not only w/r to CO2 - but also Ocean Pollution - which is arguably the most pressing Environmental threat that we face.

Just look at a graph of China's CO2 emissions on their rapid path to industrialization - its not pretty - and the Ocean Pollution story is even worse.

Let us assume that by 2030 - we have managed to get another 1.4 Billion industrialized - at a huge environmental cost -we are probably near half way there. since the study some 10 years ago so over 20 years.

Happy day - we now have 2.8 Billion industrialized .. only 4.2 left to go .. right ? Wrong .. in 2030 the world population will be 8.5 Billion .. = increased by 1.5 Billion during the time we industrialized 1.4 Billion = we have not made a dent in the non industrialized portion.

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You know, there's nothing wrong with a few Model-T Fords chugging around, puffing out pollutant.
And nothing wrong with a few plastic bags here and there. Nor is there anything wrong with clearing
a patch of land and growing a crop - but when you get ten billion people all doing the same then we
are in a big problem.

 

Exactly - which is why we do not want to rush out and try to industrialize the other 6 Billion people on the Planet.

This is why Blue's current environmental policy is dumb and dumber .. Blocking Pipelines does what ?

1) exports our pollution problems to other nations - violating the NGD. We will use 20 million bpd - every day - next year. We can get this product from domestic (which includes Canada) by Pipeline .. or we can get it from Nigeria - Tanker.

Nigeria is a massive Ocean Polluter - Ocean Pollution being the most Pressing enviro risk - Google "Dead Zones" and "Sargassum" - just for starters.

Buying from such nations also incentivizes industrialization - which we don't want to do - as this increases both the carbon and the pollution equation.

Moore was demonized by blue for pointing out industrialization and population growth as major issues that are being ignored .. and for speaking the Truth about Biofuels.

If one finds oneself so far left of Moore that he looks flaming right on the spectrum -- you may have fallen off the turnip truck one too many times - if ya get my drift (not referring to you of course)

 

You have "grudgingly" parroted the SOS white supremacists across the globe have spewed to justify the actions and legacy of European/Nordic colonialism and imperialism. No one is perfect and corruption is not regulated to one race or ethnicity. But to pretend all of Zimbabwe's problems are the result of self rule is pure (willfull?)ignorance of history.

 

Nothing is ever simple. Zimbabwe's problems have multiple sources, but the main one is
mismanagement. White people, brown people, black people, yellow people - who cares,
we are all the same - genetically we are near identical. We all love and hate, protect and
conquer.
It is homo Sapiens as a whole the planet needs to watch - we wiped out dozens of other
homo groups. It's in our genes. We are the greatest hunters that ever lived, and we are
good at war.

 

Management after inheriting a **** storm aftermath Timeline of Key Events in Zimbabwe | Voice of America - English (voanews.com)

 

and when we think of Mugabe and what happened about land, we should not forget the role of the British Government in allowing this to come into being by not following the Lancaster House Agreement followed by the US once again indulging in its sanctions to destroy countries.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202010160406.html

 

None of this explains why Zimbabwe today can't be a flourishing, democratic,
breadbasket and mining powerhouse of Africa.
Blaming a previous administration is one of the oldest tricks in the political
handbook. Zimbabwe today should at least be as prosperous as the day white
rule was finished.

 

It explains a lot if you bothered to look at it. Getting over Colonialism is not the same as changing from Democrats to Republicans. I suggest you read the link I left to begin to get an understanding as you clearly have absolutely none.

 

Here Pooh Bear, This is the sort of thing those 'white' people who you grudgingly think are superior got up to when they were colonising - apart of course from stealing all of the country's resources.

George Monbiot

Everything you know about the British Empire is a lie | George Monbiot - YouTube

 

Yeah, white man brought his ideology to the natives. He felt that eventually the natives
would accept liberal democracy, the scientific method, Christianity, Capitalism, the rule
of law and property rights. Despite how some used colonialism (think of King Leopold who
scandalized all Europe with his treatment of Congolese) this was the ultimate driving force
for many Europeans.
But what do we get? As Pocahontas pointed out - what the natives really wanted were
guns so they could have their own empires.
So Zimbabwe went back to tribal warfare (now with guns) the destruction of the rule of law
(the biggest and fattest take what land they want); dictatorship (like before white rule); tribal
farming methods and superstition. I mean, what could go wrong?