All Things Anti-Islam

I call them as I see them

 

Let's not focus so much on their violent tendencies. Did you know in certain situations Muslims are permitted to have sex with animals? We should criticize that more often. It's not always one can call others goat (*)(*)(*)(*)ers and actually be telling the truth.

 

you are not only making things up for islam,
but you also make things up for your own religion.

this is the problem with most of the people.
they rely on their deceptive and weak minds to build
a belief and live by it.

they chase things without questioning.
because they see people around them doing it that way.

there is no crisis.
people run after their own made up truths and desires
and they tyrannize themselves like they have been doing
all along... by hiding the truth from themselves.

they did it to noah (pbuh), to moses (pbuh),
to jesus (pbuh), to muhammed (pbuh).

all prophets have been tortured, mocked and chased.

there is something about mankind.
that triggers the need to be right and superior, and see
a portion of people inferior. man is vulgar and ungrateful.
man takes pleasure from making others suffer.

we'll all see the truth after only "the veil" is removed.
surely it will be too late for some.

32:12

If only thou couldst see when the guilty ones will bend low
their heads before their Lord, (saying "Our Lord! We have
seen and we have heard: Now then send us back (to the world):
we will work righteousness: for we do indeed (now) believe."​

we seek refuge in Allah to be one of these people.
you, keyboard heroes, do whatever you want to do now.

 

More on the Religion of Peace

 

Very good Muslims. They make MohamMAD proud. All these whitewashed "Muslims" should either follow their supposed prophet or repent and follow Jesus Christ.

 

lmao too funny...

"Your religion is stupid and you aren't even doing it right... Heyyy, why not convert to Christianity!"

This thread was started as a joke, right?

 

Of course, realizing that was made as a joke went over your head and you actually think its true...

So, does anybody have any experiences with Islam they would like to share? Still waiting. I mean, you must have at least one bad experience to hate the fastest growing faith on Earth, right?

 

No, but I don't have any experience with cocaine or crack either, so whats your point?

 

Cocaine and crack is a drug. The Quran is a book. Islam is a faith. Muslims are human beings. If you cannot see the difference, I can't help you, I am not a psychiatrist.

If you have no experience of Islam, how can you hate it? This just shows, the hatred of Islam - or any faith - without first experiencing it and KNOWING what you are hating, I mean actually knowing and not just searching for bad things on Google, then you will never have a good argument.

Which is why the Islam haters, especially on this forum, never have any good arguments. Never have any good points. Ironically, all the points made by Islam haters are the same, and are recycled from the exact same websites/blogs, never their own opinion. Why is that? Because you cannot form an opinion with no knowledge of the subject, right? How could you have an opinion on something you know nothing about? But unfortunately the bloggers also have no knowledge of Islam, so their opinion is, like whatever one you would make, (to put it nicely) meaningless. But you use it anyway...

People with no experience of Islam, yet hate it anyway, need to either educate themselves - something they seem to scared to do - or... Well, quite simply grow up. Because, hating it with no knowledge is childish. And it shows in this thread how childish the haters are.

There are many places to actually learn about Islam, which will actually help you in hating Islam properly, and not coming off as jokes. I am giving you advice on how to be taken seriously when trying to bash Islam lol

Or, stay uneducated, stay ignorant, stay blind, and stay a joker who isn't taken seriously by anybody other than the other haters.

I mean look at your post for example. Comparing interaction with people of a different faith to drugs... How can anybody take this seriously?

سلام

 

First, you need to back up and tell me where I said I hated muslims or islam. I just thought the point you were making about "experiencing" something to know whether its good or bad, was rather ignorant. I don't bash islam, or hate muslims, for that matter as a true christian, I don't hate or bash anybody. I'll call them out on an arguement, but I don't hate them. It seems that you seem to be the one bashing....I mean look at your post to me......

 

The first part and last part, about the drugs was specifically to you. The rest was haters in general, not directed only at YOU you.

Then explain how can you hate - or like - something without knowing what it's about. People who learn about drugs learn the unbiased truth. Yeah, the high is fun, but not worth the rest of the effects. So, you don't need to take a drug to know what it will do to you, that's already been researched and I've been taught this since Junior High school.

With a faith, it's different. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in this world, from all different backgrounds. Judging the entire faith based on the actions of a few is childish, is it not? Especially when you have not actually experienced the faith for yourself. I am not saying convert, I mean anything from reading the Quran to speaking to a Muslim. And learning about Islam from scholars and people who know what they are talking about, not bloggers with no Islamic knowledge.

There are reasons I don't hate on different faiths. One, it's unnecessary. I have no reason to. I am satisfied enough with Islam, I don't need to belittle other religions to make me feel good about my own. The other, and I admit, I don't know much about them. I haven't taken the time to study then, however when I do, I stay away from anti-(religion) websites. I don't enjoy wasting my time.

 

While I agree with most of what you said, I think Islam would be given a better name if people would rise up and denounce the radicals. Proponents of "the relgion of peace" want to talk about how peaceful it is, but all we see is islamic violence, and no one denouncing it.

 

They denouce violence all the time. Haven't you been listening for the past decade?

 

They do denounce violence, plenty. Only this isn't interesting news for people.

Great example... With two threads on this forum:

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...uslim-turk-calls-ban-dog-ownership-hague.html this thread, negative portrayal of Islam (well, an attempt anyway) has 148 posts, 1 147 views.

Meanwhile...

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...mams-issue-fatwa-against-honour-killings.html has 0 posts, and only 41 views. This, of course, being exactly what you talk about. Speaking out. Not very popular.

It happens, but it will never make news over a negative news item, is what I'm trying to say.

And what does speaking out accomplish? People have spoken out against Assad, he hasn't stopped. Muslims have condemned Boko Haram killing innocent people in Nigeria, that didn't matter to them. Muslims condemned al-Qaida, nothing happens.

Speaking out only works with sane people, in other words, or with action.

I agree, Imams (mainly as they have the most authority, however all Muslims in general) need to speak out more, publicly, we need more Fatwas like above, but truth is it won't change much. Because we also need a media willing to spread this, instead of spreading what is being spoken out against and keeping this locked up.

Maybe that will change, starting with ending honor killings.

Inshallah.

 

really, its not on the news, and since the news is mostly left biased, you would think there would be plenty of headlines.

 

Im quite familiar with the battle of Tabouk. Make a point if you can. Islamic fundamentalist get their doctrine from the Quran and Hadiths. Not arab history written centuries later.

 

Yeah, thats why the muslims are commanded to "fight", "kill" "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers like me, until religion is only for allah.

 

I already did. That verse does not say kill all non-Muslims in general. You are really bad at this.

Ya haram....

The punishment, habibi, comes from Allah SWT. Not us.

You really are clueless.

 

We hate the same thing you admire.

Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."


[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

[2.244] And fight in the way of Allah,...

[2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

[3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

[3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

[4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

[4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them,


You are just like a crack addict who can imagine what people would hate about crack.

 

Well, it says to "fight" like I quoted, not kill, "Those who do not believe in Allah". You wont find any mention of these byzantines you speak of.

 

And you are a muslim in denial.

[9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace,

You really are clueless

 

Have you read the OLd Testament ? What was Yaweh's commands to the Hebrews , what they should do to Moabites/Jebusites / Canaanites , idolators + pagans ?

I'm no expert on the subject but I gather Islam like Christianity + Judaism (depending on the political climate) preach acceptence and tolerance of each others faiths. Followers being people of the Book - monotheism.

btw - I've worked in Saudi 3 yrs - + spent more time travelling in a few other muslim majority countries , and no muslim have ever tried to "Kill-Slay or smite my neck " for being an unbeliever , not being a muslim. Nore have they forced their religion on me.

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Dixon : chew on this :

"Dash the children on the rocks...kill men, women and children...

Psalm 137, verse 9:"How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock."
Ezekial chapter 9, verse 4-6: "The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women"


Kill them all, after all, Yahweh commands it. See that little crying baby over there, slaughter it - that's an order.


Kill everyone except the virgin girls...have these for yourselves...

Numbers, chapter 31, verses 17-18: "So now put every male child to death, and every woman who has had sex relations with a man. But all the female children who have had no sex relations with men, you may keep for yourselves."
After slaughtering all the young boys and women following a battle, the victorious Israelite soldiers get to keep all the young virginal girls for their own enjoyment. I'm sure Genghis Khan would have approved.



Pillage..
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Deuteronomy chapter 2, verses 33-35: "And the Lord our God gave him into our hands; and we overcame him and his sons and all his people. At that time we took all his towns, and gave them over to complete destruction, together with men, women, and children; we had no mercy on any. Only the cattle we took for ourselves, with the goods from the towns we had taken."
Deuteronomy chapter 20, verses 13-14: "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves."

Genocide, destruction and plunder - the Vikings would have been proud.


Kill the kids who laughed at Elisha...


2 Kings, chapter 2, verses 23-24: "Then from there he went up to Beth-el; and on his way, some little boys came out from the town and made sport of him, crying, Go up, old no-hair! Go up, old no-hair! And turning back, he saw them, and put a curse on them in the name of the Lord. And two she-bears came out of the wood and put forty-two of the children to death."
Yahweh sends bears to kill 42 little children because they made fun of Elisha's bald head. "Suffer the little children"...

Rape, infanticide, theft..
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Isiah chapter 13, verse 16: "Their young children will be broken up before their eyes; their goods will be taken away, and their wives made the property of others."

More mindless slaughter, theft and rape all directed by the "loving" Christian god. And to think that I actually used to worship this cruel & vicious being!




Injustice...

Exodus chapter 34, verse 7: "...But will send punishment on children for the sins of their fathers, and on their children's children to the third and fourth generation."
This seems just a little bit unfair to me. I wonder what the European Court of Human Rights would have to say?


Slavery, de-valuing women...

Exodus chapter 21, verse 7:"If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do."
Leviticus chapter 27, verse 6:"And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver."

Exodus 21:20-21: "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property."

Not only does the Bible condone slavery, it actually values female slaves as worth less money than males. And it's ok to beat a slave with a rod as long as he or she doesn't die immediately. Disgraceful

Enjoy. LOL .

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Christian + Jewish fundamentalist bigots - get theirs from the Bible - DUH !

Samuel, chapter 15, verse 3: "Go now and put Amalek to the sword, putting to the curse all they have, without mercy: put to death every man and woman, every child and baby at the breast, every ox and sheep, camel and ass."

Hosea, chapter 13, verse 16 (chapter 14, verse 1 : "Samaria will be made waste, for she has gone against her God: they will be cut down by the sword, their little children will be broken on the rocks, their women who are with child will be cut open."

Hellelujah - ?

hmmm.