Drive-By Shootings

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Uncle Meat, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Meat, you`d need to study long and hard to acheive battery hen status. Awwww, don`t do the sooky button again, be a big girl.:aww:
     
  2. Uncle Meat

    Uncle Meat Banned

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    "defeat" of what, exactly?

    My OP asks the questions:

    "What are the statistics on drive-by knifings for the same time period?

    "How many lives were lost due to drive-by knifings last year in America?

    "How many people were injured due to drive-by knifings?"

    These are questions.

    I've never once said that a drive-by stabbing has actually occurred.

    I've offered no numbers.

    Merely asked questions.

    Have you been reading the threads?
     
  3. Uncle Meat

    Uncle Meat Banned

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    So, I ask once again, who in this thread is advocating "firearm bans"?

    Certainly not me, although you don't have the balls to admit that.

    However, there may be someone in this thread calling for a ban: who is it?

    You're the one who brought it up.
     
  4. Silverhair

    Silverhair New Member

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    What you were responding to is irrelevant as you still made the accusation. Do you really expect an elderly man who is being attacked by several young male gang members to invite them to a gym for a boxing match? Is he a coward for not wanting to street fight against young gang members?

    I carry a gun because I realize that violent crime does happen to innocent victims. Thugs target those who look like they can't fight back, which is often the elderly. My gun gives me the ability to effectively fight back.



    The point is moot because I know extemely well that I CAN pull the trigger. That someone else may not be able to has no effect on me.
     
  5. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Still playing little word games I see. Your irelevance is only surpassed by your absurdity. BTW, show me where I said what you are accusing me of saying? If you`ve got the ovaries. Two can play these little games.
     
  6. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    What a silly post.
     
  7. Uncle Meat

    Uncle Meat Banned

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    You'll break that record soon.

    You can do it.
     
  8. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    wanna bet?
     
  9. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Sorry cat,but I'm long past thinking I'm John Wayne
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    More 'made up facts' meat?
     
  11. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Oh please....now you're getting desperate
     
  12. SpotsCat

    SpotsCat New Member Past Donor

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    I think I am beginning to understand the position of our friends on this forum who live Down Under. It seems that drive-by shootings and overall gun violence is becoming more frequent in Australia, despite their controls and restrictions on firearms.

    For example, these recent stories from Australian television --

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqMO8vTr-pM&feature=relmfu]Feb. 15, 2011[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vub_V7NnO1E&feature=relmfu]Sept. 5, 2011[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQoGa597ua8&feature=relmfu]Nov. 6th, 2011[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwelqAjb9og&feature=relmfu]Jan. 12, 2012[/ame]
     
  13. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    SpotsCat, real world Australians aren`t represented by PC battery hens who think the way to prevent violent crime, is to disarm the law abiding citizens & pamper the criminals. What can I say? We`ve got our share of simpletons here. Want some? They`re free, if you want them.
     
  14. Bowerbird

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    Yes, and it was an idea imported from.............

    However because of our lower overall gun and homicide rate we have a much better chance of catching these crime
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Any time you want to swap Australia for America please let us know

    After all Rupert Murdoch did it so you could too!
     
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    You obviously support the agenda of disarming the law abiding citizens & pampering the criminals. Forgive me for pointing out that this isn`t a very smart idea.
     
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    "There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Give me your pump, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole compound, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away and we'll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror."
     
  18. drj90210

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    I agree 100%. I fail to see the purpose of the OP, and the author is not forthcoming in explaining why he wrote it the way he did.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Around this time of the year, Aussie drug dealers have big clearout sales. They sell all their low quality junk for next to nothing, cheap, but nasty.
     
  20. Bowerbird

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    Ever seen someone shot in the face? I mean actually stood next to a bed while they were told their face saw mush and they would be facing years upon years of reconstruction

    No car smash comes close believe me
     
  21. SpotsCat

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    I don't usually presume to speak for other forum members, but in this case I'll go out on a limb and make an exception.

    If the private possession of firearms is reduced/restricted, then you've the number of shootings - intentional or otherwise - is also sharply reduced. And because a knife is a close-combat weapon, criminals (read: gang members) don't drive by a house and throw knifes at the occupants.

    What I think Uncle Meat is trying to communicate to us is that because firearms are outlawed in Australia, they don't have as severe a problem with drive-by shootings as we do here in Estados Unidos.
     
  22. drj90210

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    But from the data and statistics on violent crime, we know that this is not true at all.

    The more important question is, does gun control have any effect on gang members purchasing weapons? Seeing that the highest rates of gun crime are in cities with the heaviest restrictions on guns (Camden, Detroit, D.C), the answer is clear that gun control has ZERO effect on reducing crime.

    Who commits drive-by shootings? Law-abiding citizens who purchase guns legally, or gang-members who purchase guns on the black market?

    Now, does gun control stop gang members who purchase guns on the black market? Obviously not.

    I knew what the OP was trying to get across, but he was dodging any responsiblity of trying to explain himself and advance the debate any further. I was trying to push him to formulate a mature and cogent argument, but he has yet failed to do so.
     
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    You'll see a lot of that here. Welcome to Political Forum.com! :D
     
  24. Silverhair

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    Guns aren't the only things that can damage the human body. Knives can disembowel a person. Clubs can cave in the skull. People can even be killed by fist and feet attacks. In fact, in the U.S. more people are murdered each year by fist and feet than are murdered by rifles.

    You concentrate on guns violence but ignore all the other forms of violence. My gun enables me to effectively resist violence should I ever become a target.
     
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    Have you ever seen a child crippled or killed by a push bike accident? The number of kids killed or severely injured on push bikes is obscene, check out the statistics. What do you suggest we do? Ban push bikes?

    Junk food kills more people than firearms. What do you suggest we do ?

    I can`t see the logic in crucifying responsible gun owners, while pampering criminals. Criminal organisations are now smuggling pistols into Australia, anyone can buy one. Criminals will always arm themselves. The reality is, targeting responsible people while pampering criminals is exactly the same as rewarding drink drivers while persecuting safe drivers with clean records.
     
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