The Criminalization of Christianity

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by churchmouse, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. danboy9787

    danboy9787 New Member

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    Remember that time when I said christians have become arrogant and self-centered? Yeah.... I'm sorry about that. Because he seems to be a good example.
     
  2. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    There are good Christians who are not so, and they are not an issue in my mind (I have been dating one of them for a while now). But Mr. Misled is a bit amusing, he says something, and offers nothing to substantiate the argument.
     
  3. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    And what have you offered to substantiate your claims within this forum? Anything other than the opinion of other people and your own opinion?
     
  4. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Huh. When I make claims they are offered with a citation. Anything I post can be substantiated by at least one source.

    Do you have a point? Or are you going to bog the discussion down with silly semantics?
     
  5. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Like I said. Anything more than the opinions of others or your own opinion?

    No semantics involved. Can you substantiate your claims without the use of opinions of other people? Simple 'yes' or 'no'.
     
  6. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    How about you be more specific instead of making a broad and general claim that covers thousands of posts hmmmm?
     
  7. MisLed

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    I hardly think i have to substantiate anything to some dimwit that can't seem to get that MISS LEDD is not a guy.
     
  8. MisLed

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    yes and those citations always seem to be concurrent with the latest left wing talking points. You don't even seem to have the inclination to do your own study. Did someone blow your fingers off? I'd be ashamed to be such a shill of the left wing elite.
     
  9. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Even if he did give anything other than opinions, you would kill this thread with more of your sophistry and bull(*)(*)(*)(*) semantic arguments.

    BTW, what does God think about you using magic (aka "Numerology" what your computer runs on) every day?
     
  10. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Oh, how intellectual of you.

    Care to substantiate some of your claims? Or simply continue to play the victim card without rhythm or reason?
     
  11. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    How is one to be more specific than to say 'your claims'. The expression is all inclusive. No delimiters were established to restrict the expression to any individual claim. Notice the difference between 'claims' and 'claim'.

    Also, my comment and challenge is not a claim. Recognize that difference also.
     
  12. Wolverine

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    Really? What left wing sources do I use?
     
  13. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    You are wasting bandwidth with your nonsensical, and ultimately irrelevant, replies.
     
  14. Incorporeal

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    He acknowledges the events of the era and the need to have long distance communication in keeping with the secularized world. The use of a manufactured tool is not the practice of numerology. Numerology is used in making predictions based on mathematical models... predicting future events (regardless of how far remote in time). Have I made any predictions using the tools of science? If you think I have, then please show where such prediction was made. Perhaps you have made yet another unsubstantiated claim in suggesting that I have used 'numerology'.
     
  15. Questerr

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    Your computer makes thousands of mathematical predictions every second. Every time you turn it on you are engaging in witchcraft.

    Either that or your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) contentions about "Numerology" are just that: bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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  16. Incorporeal

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    That is the computer making those "mathematical predictions" (sometimes referred to as 'handshakes' between my computer and that belonging to someone else). Numerology requires the individual to make those predictions ... a process of mental evaluation of data received and the reaching of conclusions in the form of predictions. As for me making predictions relative to my use of the computer... I can't. You see, I cannot see into the future and never KNOW if the computer message is going to be transferred or not. Example: the constant and unpredicted "data base errors" that occur on this forum.
     
  17. Incorporeal

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    You get challenged with a valid question, and suddenly my responses are "nonsensical, and ultimately irrelevant,." Now that is really interesting. In other words, you cannot substantiate your many claims without using the opinions of other people. How revealing.
     
  18. Incorporeal

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    Then you admit that even the scientists who use computers are practicing 'witchcraft'. Very revealing indeed.
     
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    Whenever you get challenged you hide behind you excuse of "this is just more rationalization" junk.

    How revealing.

    Just remember, pride is one of the seven deadly sins.

    And numerology is apart of witchcraft and is not compatible with Christianity.
     
  20. Incorporeal

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    You say 'hide behind' a given statement. The more appropriate thing for those who I allege are 'rationalizing' is to PROVE that they are not rationalizing. Absent the PROOF that they are not rationalizing, then guess what... they are rationalizing.

    Now it appears that you are rationalizing my use of the charge against others of rationalizing as being a product of my rationalizing. How circular can you get in your use of logic.
     
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    Heck, everytime Incorporeal counts on his fingers he's using numerology. That the numeral system we use is based on ten fingers is completely arbitrary. It could have been three colors that propagated as a numeral reference instead of a body part, leaving us with a ternary system. It's total numerology. Oh, and the predictions we make with this 10-base system that we're stuck with by such arbitrary means? Total witchcraft, man. Useless in any way.
     
  22. churchmouse

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    Leffe said….

    Don't expect an easy ride? Sounds like a threat is it?

    Oh you do…and I suppose Obama who did lied about ending the war immediately when he took office…and didn't…took him almost an entire term to do it….was much more Christian than Bush, right? How many died on Obamas watch? How many men and women did he send over there….funny he did that if he campaigned to end the war….remember….YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BACK.
    Yes Obama the Christian…who even admitted he had MUSLIM FAITH in an interview when he let the cat out of the bag. Said the prayer to Muslim worship was the most beautiful sound on earth….and bowed to a Muslim leader. Sigh….And the most radical on abortion…oh don't even get me started on this one.

    No excuse for covering up sex crimes done by leaders. No excuse for covering up crimes no matter who does it. I am not Catholic but know many who did not agree with anything they did regarding this.

    Our country has always recognized marriage between ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. And today states are caving in on this…so soon you will have every right afforded to anyone in the country. And soon if you want to marry groups of people you will be able to do that. And soon if someone wants to have sex with their pet pooch and marry it…most likely they will be able to do that as well. So what is your point?

    I certainly do not cherry pick the Bible…I believe all of it. I would get into the law and observances …but you are not a Christian do not have the Holy Spirit and quite frankly your knowledge is limited because of this. You simply can't get it. No Christian is perfect that is exactly why we need Christ. You secular humanists, moral relativists hold us up to a more perfect standard than does Christ. If we fail…if we sin..then all is lost and we are frauds. I do not admit to being perfect in all words and actions….I never have pretended to do that. But you on the other hand….say I am not authentic if I fall. You don't have Christ…you can't comprehend period. You at best have limited head knowledge…nothing that comes to this topic from the heart…where Jesus says we must start. Believing in Him is a heart transaction….spiritual.

    And wait one minute skippy….I never condemned anyone here…never judged their heart or soul. I just someone based on their words and actions…God takes care of the heart. If you feel condemned then you have issues with yourself…because I did not write the Bible…I only believe and follow it. If you have a beef with rules or something take it up with God. Obviously you are bitter.


    And you know enough about Christianity and Christ being saved yourself…eh to tell me I don't have it in order? I have every right to judge you on what you say, especially when you bash and criticize Christ. I have the right to do that in America. I have a right to talk about abortion…and homosexuality and talk about them in the context of the Bible…….that is a right the Constitution gives me. And that is being threatened….MAINLY BY THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA…THEY AS MUCH HAVE ADMITTED IT.
    You do not have an anchor tied to your backside. You are the one who obviously lurks around sites where Christians hang out…..FOR WHAT REASON? LOL If you don't like the posts…posters….PUT THEM ON IGNORE. Better yet…leave and go to another topic you enjoy. I have rights to free speech….don't forget that. i know what God wants….it is in the scriptures and is easy enough for a child to understand.
     
  23. Incorporeal

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    At the red text: I just love it when someone from the other side of the fence admits that one of my former charges is a 'fact'. You are admitting that the numeral system is "arbitrary". Yeppir, that numeral system could have been based on any set or quantity of objects.

    All of what you have said above does not resolve the fact that when a scientist turns on his/her computer, that scientist is using witchcraft according to the dictates of Questerr. If you have a problem with that claim, then you need to take it up with the one who set in print that dictate regarding the use of computers. BTW: That use of 'finger counting' would also be applicable to scientists.
     
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    The only thing I have a problem with is this: Is it only when scientists turn on a computer that witchcraft is used? :hmm:
     
  25. Questerr

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    Quite the opposite. I contend that you bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims about "Numerology" are nothing more than bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     

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