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I don't believe in God, gods, or a god named God...

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Bow To The Robots, Jun 6, 2012.

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  1. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

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    You believe in nothing, which is more extraordinary and supernatural than any of those other things you listed. In short, you're an atheist who believes in the religion of scientism. If you believe in the "scientific" Big Bang, then you are a religious believer of the mythology known as science.
     
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  2. doombug

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    Actually the Big Bang is problematic for atheists. For someone to believe there is no evidence a God exists accepting the universe had a beginning means the possibility of a creator. If there was a bang then there was a cause.
     
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    and the cause is a person and that person is excempt from needing causes to explain its existance or actions how?
     
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  4. doombug

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    A person? I don't think people even existed at the begining of time did they?
     
    doombug, Jun 12, 2012
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  5. MegadethFan

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    Hail Satan. That's what I say. LOL
     
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  6. stig42

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    some belive 1 did
     
    stig42, Jun 12, 2012
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  7. Anobsitar

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    No. A first cause is causeless. As far as I heard only unicorns are able to transport causes from the transzendence into our world. And I heard nothing about that they are searching in Cern for unicorns.

    http://youtu.be/VxoJLJx-mJw
     
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  8. Anobsitar

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    Vade retro satanas - he's an idiot, that's all.

    http://youtu.be/wLjzeDY2vhc
     
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  9. SkyStryker

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    They have the same exact goals but often use different methods.
     
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  10. SkyStryker

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    That is true as they are much less resistant to admitting errors over the religious groups that can take 18,842 years to admit that maybe the earth isn't flat.
     
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  12. doombug

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    No, some believe God existed.
     
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  13. doombug

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    Really? Not in this universe.Ever hear of cause and effect?
     
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  14. doombug

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    That's something to consider no doubt but one cannot be treated as the other. Atheists want to pretend the Bible was written as a science or history textbook. I don't think that was the intention of it.
     
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    yes as a person i did not say a human but a person an intelligence with opinions and desires
     
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  16. SkyStryker

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    atheists probably got the idea of fundamentalism from fundamentalists. In many ways the Bible is a history text because its main purpose was to provide a historical relationship between God and people. It provides history, instruction, expectation, and the evolution of human views on God.
     
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  17. doombug

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    So what you are saying is you don't know the difference between a human being and God...mmmkay...
     
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  18. SkyStryker

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    A person does not have to be human.
     
    SkyStryker, Jun 13, 2012
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  19. doombug

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    Well in the English language "person" commonly means human being.
     
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  20. MegadethFan

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    Not any more, and rightly so.
     
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  21. SkyStryker

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    The concept of personhood is not limited to human beings and all words in all languages are not precise because we invented them as a tool of translation between our thoughts and others.
     
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  22. doombug

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    Whatever. I agree with this definition: per·son /ˈpərsən/Noun: 1. A human being regarded as an individual.

    So again, whatever.
     
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  23. stig42

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    well god being so far only what peapole make of it no i dont seems you dont have any idea what a non homo sapien person would be
     
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  24. SkyStryker

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    wow. You agree with something you read that supports your view. Isn't that like Maddow using Bashir to say MSNBC is not biased?



    Did you accidentally miss where I said "personhood" or did you simply ignore it? Try this:

    "The state or condition of being a person, especially having those qualities that confer distinct individuality"

    Does God have any distinct qualities?
     
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  25. Anobsitar

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    A "non homo sapiens sapiens person" could be for example a company - although it's a human being who's speaking in the interest of a company and companies in general are a part of the human civilizations. Glad if I was able to help - if not: forget it.

    http://youtu.be/_FgTCbS6WBM
     
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