Stringent voter ID law in Pa. could prevent 750,000 from voting

Of course socialism involves statism.

In order for the state to redistribute the wealth libs need a very big and powerful state.

 

With all due respect you need ID to get food stamps. This isn't hurting the poor. And trat you aren't supposed to have your SSC with you.

 

That's pretty legitimate, but probably only affects a tiny minority of voters and even those affected have ample time to get a replacement.

I sympathize, but is there any broader justification than this one-off anecdotal incident to be against this legislation?

Also btw, trying to explain to most the folks here that that's a difference between liberals and socialist is like trying to explain Wi-Fi to a pygmy.

 

What fraud??
This is voter suppression and everyone knows it.

From the party that claims to love liberty, freedom and support the Constitution none the less.
Amazing how so many are fooled by their propaganda.

 

You're not telling the entire story are you?

 

you left out dead people...just saying.

 

if the obstacle to vote were substantially more challenging, such as a poll tax or IQ requirement... I would be 100% on board.

However simply obtaining a photo ID is a very simple matter and should prevent no one from being able to vote sans some very very unique circumstances.

 

After looking through this thread I can not find a single case of 'voter fraud' presented by the rightists.
Where is the fraud people?
You all claim you hate the big Govt in your lives but you vote for and support big Govt 'solutions' to problems that don't exist!
Do you want more Govt or less?
THIS is MORE Govt intrusion yet every single rightists here fully supports it with NO evidence to back up their claim of voter fraud!

Lets be honest, this is about keeping certain groups of people from voting.....Democrat....it's nothing more than that.
It's legalizing right wing voter fraud.
It's unAmerican, it's anti-American and it goes against the Constitution.

 

Why do it at all? Big Govt intrusion?
You know as well as I that most are not going to do this very simple thing, and THAT is the propose of this voter suppression law.
To keep certain people, poor black, elderly and the young from voting.
There is NO voter fraud....except for this voter ID law.

 

Sounds like you chose to get your license replaced, which may take some time, but a year? You could have walked in to the license branch and waited on a free ID only. If elections were important to you and one was coming up, you probably would have done that. There will be, I suppose, a few cases of people losing their license/ID days before the election, but they can still vote on a provisionary ballot and produce ID up to 10 days after the election (at least in my state, Indiana).

There really are no excuses not to support the ID....unless you want to support voter fraud.

 

you replied to a post with 1,480 cases of voter fraud.

 

We have no problem making a positive ID of ourselves for much less important things, that you simply need to acquire and display an ID should prohibit virtually no one from voting while simultaneously providing confidence to other voters that everyone else that has voted is here legally and of age.

 

Most black liberals still think it is 1863 in America, most other liberals believe they are still living in 1963.

Still obsessing over the distant past that has no bearing on the present. I have never seen a poll tax, or Jim Crow laws and neither have you. Highly unlikely as well has been anyone here turned away at the polls by Klansmen. What is much more likely is someone here being turned away by New Black Panthers---allies of the Obama regime.

Voter fraud is virtually all done in the hands of Democrats to support their war on our Constitution.

 

If you are too stupid to get a proper ID you have no business voting.

 

They are saying that blacks are too stupid to figure out how to get an ID.

 

Not really, no. To be honest, my opposition isn't dedicated, only half-hearted. If the state offers free ID and makes it well-known and advertised all across the state, I don't have anything against the law.

I feel like some people are against it just because it's "the other guys" doing it.

I've noticed

 

Redistribution of wealth is inherent in every economic system and is not exclusive to socialism.

 

Its obviously partisan legislation based on the remarks of Turzai and only proves that the Republican Party will stoop to new low's to keep those who aren't part of their voter base from voting. I'm wondering if its even legal.

 

I am already, actually.

What principles are those?

 

See, I didn't know that. Nobody ever told me ID's were free.

 

I have a problem on principle. We are supposed to distrust the government, not have the government distrust the people. It's just more of the same "we're all suspects" mentality. I just find it ironic that conservatives are the ones proclaiming it's necessary to protect the government...from what? The people.

 

Way off. This is protection from fraud against We The People.

 

It is a State issue. Indiana has voter ID laws and you can get a free ID. That is a necessity for instituting voter ID so you do not disenfranchise any voter.

 

#2 is the method by which one proves they are a citizen of the state and voting district in question. Do you consider qualifications (such as age and legal residency) to be a violation of the right to vote?

 

Of course not, why should liberals assume any responsibility for anything? It's so HARD to carry a photo ID on your person. What an inconvenience. I bet those same people have their ID when they get to pick up a wellCare check? The funny thing is, nobody with an ounce of responsibility would find any hardship what so ever in carrying ID on them, but then again, we're talking liberals. You just reaffirmed the stereotype of laziness.