Palestinian Statehood officially acknowledged.

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    It's been illegal since the founding the United Nations. Before that, actually, according to the Kellog-Briand Peace Pact.

    Would you care to expand upon this sleazy implication ?
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    If you can't provide an alternative translation there is no reason to think there is anything wrong with the one provided by MEMRI.
     
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    Laws regarding interNATIONAL relations deal with relations between NATIONS. Palestine isnt a nation. Or at a minimum, certainly wasnt a nation back then.

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    But for her, the fact that they are jews over at MEMRI, is all the reason she needs.
     
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    Your semantic desperation does not include any hint of an understanding of the term ' nation '.

    Many , so-called , ' contributors ' here operate from a level of sectarian slurs. Be advised that they are not permitted.

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    MEMRI is a tainted source. It is connected with MOSSAD.
     
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    It wasn't just Palestinians, and even if it was, yeah shame on them for trying to recover their homeland which was given away by others who had no right to it in the first place:roll: It is against international law to acquire territory through war - regardless of who initiated the conflict (which, it could be just as easily argued, was Israel). If China partitions New York for, say, Lithuanians, and you object and thus decide to go to war with the 50 odd thousand of them in diaspora. And they win. Does that mean they have the right to knock down your house and set up their own state?

    I mean this is not serious.
     
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    International law is imposed upon states. That does not mean non-state groups or collectives are not taken into account or guaranteed certain rights. In fact, to the contrary. International law exists partly to govern what powerful, statist structures may do with regard to small and vulnerable peoples. The Kurds do not have a state of their own - that doesn't mean the ethnic cleansing against them in south-eastern Turkey is legal.
     
  7. moon

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    Palestinians do have a State. And a country. And a nation.
     
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    They are a nation but the country part still requires some massive work and repeating they already have one in public forums for 1,000 times does'nt help it much.
     
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    138-9 is very convincing. Ignore it at your peril. Uncle Sam will dump you when necessity dictates.
     
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    Im not ignoring that, but you cant relay ONLY on that either.

    Im not worried about our uncle :)
     
  11. moon

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    Other legitimate forms of resistance include violent resistance to occupation. Hand-in-hand with the legal high ground, the moral and diplomatic support of most of the world, your pariah enclave of fascists and their henchmen have a pretty dark future, according to popular predictions.
     
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    Nothing to worry about,

    If they stay violent nothing will change, we were born into it, live in it and so is the future generation. a day comes and a day passes and nothing is new under the sun.
     
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    Ah, but it is. You have never been whipped 138-9 before. There has never been a United Nations recognition of a Palestinian State before. Your victims have never had access to the international courts before. You've never experienced such a large-scale international boycott and divestment programme before. Your propaganda machinery has never broken down before. Your fascists have never been so exposed before.You have never been so isolated and despised before. And its going to get worse for your fascist doctrine, Insha'Allah .
     
  14. Gilos

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    You sound so optemistic and I hate to bring you down...

    Nothing will change if you keep the armed struggle nothing at all, an occupied entity to an occupied country, Israel economy is not as big as Iran and is not as sensative as other markets in the world - we were hardly affected by the 2008 crisis, what might happen is that some countries will ban some of Israel commodities, we are looking far east anyway these days.....
     
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    Name a far-Eastern country which did not approve Palestinian Statehood at the UN . As soon as Israel establishes links the BDS movement will move in to try to break them. Perhaps you shouldn't have murdered 400 Palestinian kids over christmas, 2008/9. Along with a thousand other people. Really, Zionism must be made to pay.
     
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    You are very naive Moon....., voting for a palestinan state and sanction Israel are 2 very diffrent things, intersts is what turn this world, no wonder you belive in all that conspirecy crap, the world is a mystery to you it seems....
     
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    Capitalist claptrap. Perhaps living in an immoral society such as Israel erodes faith in human decency.

    Failed to find a far-Eastern supporter, I see. Good.
     
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    You might not wish to admit it, but without American generous "loans + loan to pay off previous loans - loan guarantees etc. etc. Its unlike that Iz-gha'el with last 6 months.
    ...
     
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    Supporter to what? Israel? you do realize Israel trades with every far east country it wants right? not some future deal but right now...
     
  20. moon

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    The work at hand is to end that trade. Hadn't you noticed ?

    http://www.bdsmovement.net/

    Did you mention ' naivety ' earlier ?

    Looks like fun. There might be rock bands and bikers and stuff. I think there'll be a marked absence of Zionists, however.
     
  21. Gilos

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    OFC it will last just like it lasted before they gave loan gurentees, just need to trim the fat if that happens - which I dont see it will.
     
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    Israel trade arms with other countries to the extent the US allows it to, we can do with the US market as well but the important thing to learn from it, as long as US got trade partners so will Israel and the intersts here go byond what settelment we withdraw from or keep.
     
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    Whatever Moon, I think you are much more likley to B!tch over Israel controling the US than rejoice over Israel demise but what do I know...
     
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    I doubt you're aware of the brazen arrogance - chutpah which comes across from some of what who've said and which doesnt win your country any friends.

    btw what's this :patriot Missiles Seized, Sold To China by Israel ?

    “Finnish police launched a probe on a ship bound for Shanghai, China, after they discovered 69 surface-to-air Patriot missiles, explosive materials, and propelling charges illegally aboard. “ Note, what had been called by some “chemicals” are now “propelling charges.” What they propel, of course, are guided missiles from nuclear submarines and plutonium and uranium components into contact to inititate nuclear explosions.

    Germany officials have offered to take responsibility for the shipment to China though there is no record of Germany ever having received the missiles in the first place. There had been a shipment of PAC 2 missiles, 64, several months ago, which had been completed. No further shipment had been scheduled.

    Germany is responding to a request from Netanyahu to Merkel to save Israel from a potential spy scandal.Similarly, a South Korean paper has published a story about the missiles but at no time has the South Korean embassy in Helsinki, made a statement or made contact with authorities as would be expected. This one gets more interesting every day.

    Germany has a long history of working with Israel, call it “war guilt” or profiteering. The centrifuges used to develop nuclear weapons that were distributed by Israel, first to South Africa then by Israeli Johann Meyer to Libya were of Germany origin. Saddam Hussein received his biological and chemical warfare equipment from Germany, but through Bush family sources, not Israel.

    We are told the missiles heading to China were to be “cloned” for sale along with radar and launch units, already there. They would be sold worldwide under Israeli branding in competition with the US. Israel is free to sell to clients the US would be likely to refuse.

    The JA 20 Stealth fighter, built from plans stolen by Bush era White House Israeli “dual-citizens” is only one of dozens of defense projects stolen by Israeli spies and sent to China. China has every current nuclear weapons design and plans to upgrade its submarine fleet and will be building aircraft carriers eventually. All will be done with American technology.

    source :... http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/23/breaking-patriot-missiles-seized-sold-to-china-by-israel/

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