Palestinian Statehood officially acknowledged.

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    I think it will take more than Anti-semite cartoons to harm Israel, but as long as you are happy, how can I grab the toy from the child :)

    Isra-hell :laughing:
     
  2. Marlowe

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    Does that mean you dont deny Israel screwing US Taxpayers - betraying their most important allie ? My happiness is irrelevant just another of your deflective tactics . but I admit getting satisfaction in exposing lies and falsehoods you've been peddling here.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    No it was the State of Egypt and Jordan who possessed and lost that land and they don't want it back. That doesn't mean it goes to the Palestinians who isn't and weren't a state.
     
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    Israel disagrees strongly with you. To them it wasn't land that belonged to Egypt and Jordan, otherwise it would be considered occupied under domestic israeli law thus making their settlements illegal under the Fourth Geneva Conventions.

    Either way, I really care not; I would prefer a one state solution. It wouldn't bother me if Israel annexed the land (which they haven't done) as long as they are willing to extent equal political and civil rights to the population (IE the Palestinians). Israel doesn't want to and won't do that. So if it doesn't want to the only other option is permanent occupation, or a two state solution. Israel needs to decide if it wants the land or a Jewish majority population more.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    Nobody owns that land, it was given up by Egypt and Jordan the previous owners. Any country that wanted it could've taken it and Israel did. Neither Egypt nor Jordan wants their land back therefore it goes to Israel.
     
  6. Dylith

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    Well that's a nifty sentiment and all and even if we ignore the fact that the international legal system disagrees with you on that point, there is still the question of the Palestinian people who live on the lands and who, despite being stateless, have basic human rights that need to be respected and addressed. Israel being in possession of the land doesn't, in any way, decrease the rights of the Palestinians living on it.
     
  7. moon

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    That's true- but the Palestinians do now have a recognised State and it damages their interests to overlook that. Its status is not a consideration at this juncture. 138- 9 is a massive moral victory and the vote has , imo, damaged neoZionism irreparably.
     
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    If you say it often enough maybe it will come to be. :smile:

    Anyway aren't you missing the "kick your congressman's arse today" part of the propaganda?
     
  9. moon

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    Do you mean in a similar way to repeating that Zionism's ethnic cleansing is justified ? I think 138-9 took care of that notion.
     
  10. Liebe

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    Of course you think that. And as expected you added your other favourite term" Ethnic cleansing". Very catchy for propaganda. Now we need "facist" and then for you to add the request to "kick my congressman's arse" now. That part comes after the 138-9 vote in favour of a two state solution.
     
  11. moon

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    Technically that's a false description of the resolution. The resolution was for the recognition of the Palestinian State on the pre-1967 borders.
    138-9 in favour, you say ? An overwhelming approval then. Germany abstained ?
     
  12. Liebe

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    Oh so it has nothing to do with ethnic cleansing but is a vote for two states on the pre-1967 borders, yes, I thought so. :smile:
     
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    I never could see any point in inventing a scenario and then declaring my appraisal of it correct.
     
  14. Liebe

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    Yet you do.
     
  15. moon

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    I could never see any point in flagrant falsehoods either.
     
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    No. But some people cannot make a single post without them...
     
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    Any REASONABLE person will realize that the 400 kids you mentioned were NOT targeted. They were killed because Palestinian soldiers were deliberately positioned near them so that when Israeli soldiers engaged the Palestinian soldiers, Israeli soldiers could be blamed for the deaths of children.
     
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    Israel must do what is in it's own best interest. Sometimes that means doing things that America would rather it not do.
     
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    Why doesn't Jordan, or Syria, or Egypt volunteer land for a Palestinian state? They have plenty to spare that would be about the size of Israel.
     
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    GA/11317 General Assembly Votes Overwhelmingly to Accord Palestine

    ‘ Non-Member Observer State’ Status in United Nations


    Objective to ‘Breath New Life’ into Peace Process, Says Palestinian President;

    Israel’s Delegate Counters, Without Direct Negotiations, Peace Remains ‘Out of Reach’


    http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2012/ga11317.doc.htm
     
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    It's not their responsibility to do so; they aren't the administrators of the land in which these people were born. Israel is and is thus responsible for their well being, unless they feel like giving up the land to different rule.
     
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    Well then they need to become Israeli's and join in making the Jewish homeland for the Jews.
     
  23. Jason Bourne

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    It's a bit difficult being responsible for the Palestinians well being when they shoot rockets at the Israelis.
     
  24. Gilos

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    Israel is not responsible for them either..., heard of the Palestinian authority? they work more than 20 years now, they have Aid funds from all around the world, Israel assists in collecting taxes and giving Power (that was never ever shot down even in war), aside from that they could/should do what they want.
     
  25. moon

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    :mrgreen: Great idea. The seven-million strong Palestinian nation are really looking forward to becoming jewish under the illusionary ' jewish State '

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    Oh, I don't know. Better guidance systems and real warheads would be a sign of good faith.
     
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