Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks

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  1. samiam5211

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    LIberals and conservatives will both do a 180 if that happens.
     
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    Funny you should mention that.That is exactly what Slate.com did.
    Palin wrote an article sometime last week talking about all the bullets
    are government has purchased { she cited the number } and Slate jumped right in
    and accused her of being a Conspiracy nut.I think the Huffington Post
    did as well.
     
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    A belief that the people owe everything to government.


    There's a lot more to it but that's the bottom line.
     
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    Republicans don't start dictatorships.....they simply BUY the elections. Without firing a shot.
     
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    So you're saying that oppressive government is fine, so long as it oppresses your political enemies?

    Obama likely agrees
     
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    Government's existence isn't a requirement of communism. So your summary cannot be accurate.
     
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    Obama does the same, he just uses tax dollars to buy them.
     
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    And capitalism is a rich guy convincing a middle class guy he can be a rich guy, if he just allows the rich guy to turn him into a poor guy.

    There's a lot more to it but that's the bottom line
     
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    oppressive governemnt is never fine.

    We don't have an oppressive government, and anyone who says we do deserves to be mocked heartily.
     
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    Well we know now that the vehicle described in the article is not a tank- for those of us who know what 'tanks' are- this was pretty obvious when we saw the tires on the vehicle- so we know that part of the post isn't accurate.

    Now what are these vehicles being acquired for?


    "The vehicle has been modified for use with the DHS Special Response Team — specially trained, fully armored agents dispatched during the most severe and high risk situations, according to WOAI.

    "[The vehicle] is used in the execution of high-risk warrants — including drug trafficking, smuggling, and contraband," Ross Feinstein, a spokesman for DHS, told Business Insider.

    In a video posted to YouTube, a DHS supervisor gives a tour of the vehicle in El Paso, Texas — displaying added skids for agents to ride along the sides, seating for 10-11, firing ports, and enhanced protection from bullets.

    "[The glass] has multiple layers in there, and it will stop up to a .50 caliber round," Robert Whittaker, tactical supervisor for El Paso SRT, says in the video. " ... so it provides very good protection for us."


    "On May 3, 2012, three ICE agents were shot and injured while serving "high-risk" warrants during an early morning sweep of San Francisco Bay area gang members, according to a report from Yahoo! News."

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-serving-warrants-mrap-2013-3#ixzz2MbKnsQjH


    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-serving-warrants-mrap-2013-3#ixzz2MbKjbDrR

    Sounds to me like they want to protect law enforcement officials from being shot.

    And a lot of folks here don't like that.
     
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    That's completely false but lets stay on subject.


    Why do you think the government is doing this? Play devil's advocate for a minute.
     
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    There would be no government under Marx's Communism. People love to criticize beliefs that they are ignorant about.
     
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    This sounds more like something George W. Bush would do. I thought Barack Obama was supposed to be way different than Bush. They look more and more the same with each passing day.
     
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    3 guys get injured so the government responds with 2,700 weapons of war?

    I made a thread a while ago about how I don't hear liberals saying the phrase big brother anymore.

    I guess because they've realized they love big brother now?

    - - - Updated - - -

    There is no such as no government, even under anarchy.

    Marx knew that.
     
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    Sounds to me like they want to protect law enforcement officials from being shot.

    And a lot of folks here don't like that.

    thanks for proving me right.
     
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    That's one of the stupidest things I've heard. The definition of anarchy is literally "absence of government". And I don't think you have ever read any of Marx's works, to be honest.
     
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    Sadly, Obama is succeding at his 2007 stated campaign goal of "Transforming" DHS into the Gulag Squad Army for the supression of American Citizens.

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    Most folks would see 2,700 death machines as a overkill, and very suspicious.

    I guess you're more trusting than most.
     
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    Sounds to me like they want to protect law enforcement officials from being shot.

    And a lot of folks here don't like that.

    thanks for proving me right.
     
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    Good thing the government never actually ordered that much.
     
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    There's no such thing as no government.

    Under anarchy, those most capable of imposing thier will would govern over those who are not.

    Marx knew that.

    Back on topic please
     
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    If you want to argue that there is no such thing as government, fine, but then it wouldn't be considered anarchy by the very definition of the word. The topic is moot anyways, there was no purchase by the DHS for 2,700 MRAPS.
     
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    Been looking into this and the source is highly skeptical. Original source is some survival blog and it has just been re-hashed by all the doom prepper blogs. Some conflicting info as well regarding whether they were new or retro-fit.

    Anyone find something more concrete?
     
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    I hope you didn't pay for your education...
     
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    Dupe thread- but at least you aren't calling these tanks.

    Well if Rommel had invaded North Africa with 2700 hundred of these, he would have been much easier to defeat- since none of these carry any weapons, can't stop any round larger than a .50 caliber and have very limited off road capabilities- these vehicles couldn't even stand up to a World War 2 Armored car carrying the light 20 mm they often carried.

    Now what are these vehicles being acquired for?

    "The vehicle has been modified for use with the DHS Special Response Team — specially trained, fully armored agents dispatched during the most severe and high risk situations, according to WOAI.

    "[The vehicle] is used in the execution of high-risk warrants — including drug trafficking, smuggling, and contraband," Ross Feinstein, a spokesman for DHS, told Business Insider.

    In a video posted to YouTube, a DHS supervisor gives a tour of the vehicle in El Paso, Texas — displaying added skids for agents to ride along the sides, seating for 10-11, firing ports, and enhanced protection from bullets.

    "[The glass] has multiple layers in there, and it will stop up to a .50 caliber round," Robert Whittaker, tactical supervisor for El Paso SRT, says in the video. " ... so it provides very good protection for us."


    "On May 3, 2012, three ICE agents were shot and injured while serving "high-risk" warrants during an early morning sweep of San Francisco Bay area gang members, according to a report from Yahoo! News."

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/homel...#ixzz2MbKnsQjH

    Sounds to me like they want to protect law enforcement officials from being shot.

    And a lot of folks here don't like that.
     

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