Kermit Gosnell, MD

It matters not if pro-choicers claim to know what God thinks.What matters is, since the original Pentecost God has told us what he thinks and one of his "thinks" is, abortion is the murder of an innocent unborn baby in the womb.

 

If she wants an abortion in the third term, it's either because of medical reasons, or because she didn't have the money to do it in the first term. I am not the one who insists that we can't give poor women free abortions.

 

Since you seem to suggest that the quote in your signature line refers to pro-lifers, let me correct your inference. We don't want to control women. We want to protect the innocent babies they put into their bodies.

 

You can't protect "innocent babies." Only the woman can do that. You want to force women to remain pregnant by force of law, thereby controlling them.

 

Cite the Bible verse.

 

Meanwhile, back in the real world, the liberals were on the case from day one, while the pro-lifers and conservatives ignored the story.

http://thegrio.com/2011/01/21/abortion-clinic-horror-in-philly-highlights-need-for-more-access/

http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2...essons-philadelphia-abortion-clinic-disaster/

http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/n...st-Philly-Abortion-Victims-Was-By-Design.html

Maybe Albert can explain why the conservative media only all suddenly discovered the case just this week. It almost looks as if the conservatives were all reading from a script they'd been issued. They get ordered to bleat outrage, they bleat.

Now, there was a very well run public health clinic in the area. Alas, it took federal funds, so it couldn't offer abortion. Hence, the women had to go to a hack like Gosnell. That no doubt fills all of the pro-lifers here with great joy, knowing that their policies successfully managed to hurt a lot of minority women. After all, that is what they devote their lives to.

 

We've done this before, a couple times. You post your list of fabricated and out-of-contest quotes, I post the links showing it's a pack of lies, you put your head in the sand and post the exact same thing a week later.

Like so many pro-lifers, you have no morals that aren't relative morals. For you, the ends always justify the means for your own side. If lying about Sanger helps your cult, then you will lie and define the lie as a good thing. Your true master is Satan, the lord of lies, who currently holds your soul in a set of vice-grips.

If you'd like, we can go again. Go on, cut and paste your list of fabrications. Being on the side of truth, I am obligated to reveal your lies every time you post them. I think that's what enrages many pro-lifers about us. They see in us the unwavering moral absolutism and commitment to truth that they know they can never attain, and it burns them like sunlight burns a vampire, so they lash out at it.

 

what a complete load of horse crap, I defy you to produce a single mention of abortion in the bible .. what you will produce will be vague interpretations of a few verses coloured in to suit your own picture.

 

Quit running cady and just answer the question. Why are you so afraid of a yes or no answer?

Do you or do you not think late term abortion should be legal and why?

YES OR NO...right here , right now. state it...own it.

 

Far from "running," I have answered this question repeatedly. Please stop the harrassment.

 

I didn't read your opinion that you stated before, Cady. What's your opinions on late term abortions?

 

Just for you...

 

What's your opinion on elective late term abortions?

 

How often do you think a woman would endure the extreme discomfort of a pregnancy until just weeks before her due date, only to terminate it on a whim? It would only be a last ditch, desperate effort of a woman who couldn't raise the price of an abortion until then. This case makes me think we shouldn't criminalize late term abortion unless every woman has an opportunity to terminate an unwanted pregnancy at an earlier date. As it stands, many poor women don't, because pro-lifers have refused to allow the government to fund abortions through Medicaid, except in the case of rape, incest or life of the woman. No woman should be forced to give birth.

 

You have the force of law behind you. That makes you powerful. Power should know humility.

Btw, there is no God or Goddess. If there were, he, she or it would not look kindly on anyone terminating life, whether human or not, for mere convenience. Pro-Abortion people should thank their lucky stars there is no God/Goddess.

 

Isn't this a marginal outlier black site that reaches a very tiny audience?

Isn't this a marginal extreme left wing site that lacks influence and reach beyond a few?

Isn't this a localized Phillie rag that basically covers local news?

That's not true. Drudge has been on this since the beginning.

Nothing of the sort. A person bleeding profusely in the water attracts sharks.

It sux to get called on your hypocrisy doesn't it?

Why aren't all Abortion Providers subjected to the same level of regulation as are hospitals?

Not at all. To suggest that is pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up.

The problem is unique to low class African Americans and Latins. No one wants to hurt a bunch of low class women.

Conservatives devote their lives to their families. Then the kids grow up. Then they retire. Then they devote their remaining lives to reaching out to people with a lower level of consciousness. That's what's happening here.

 

Not to worry. We have state-mandated transvaginal ultrasounds for that.

 

The state shouldn't mandate anything that interferes with personal autonomy.

 

LOL! There are no gods or godesses but you know what they think!?

How do you know what something that doesn't exist thinks?????

 

I don't see the difference.

 

So you agree that the state shouldn't not make abortion illegal then, as this interferes with personal autonomy.

 

Bit presumptious of them to assume that other people have a lower level of consciousness just because they don't adhere to their particulary brand of religion, don't you think that comes under pride (or even arrogance)

 

Uh, technically you're telling children that they need to die. And then you're killing them. So you're actually taking it a step beyond just telling someone how to run their life. You are actually making the decision to end their life for them. That's about as wrathful as it gets.

You know that they don't actually have to stick anything up your (*)(*)(*)(*) to do an ultrasound, right? I had one done on my heart recently, and I don't even have a (*)(*)(*)(*).

Just more empty scare tactics.

 

Nah, none of the women choosing abortion talk to the zefs. If talking to them was effective, they'd just tell them to go away. There's nothing wrathful about the decision to abort, it's simply that it's best for the woman.

Most of the laws require a transvaginal ultrasound.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/transvaginal+ultrasound

Definition
Transvaginal ultrasound is a imaging technique used to create a picture of the genital tract in women. The hand-held device that produces the ultrasound waves is inserted directly into the vagina, close to the pelvic structures, thus often producing a clearer and less distorted image than obtained through transabdominal ultrasound technology, where the probe is located externally on the skin of the abdomen.

 

Are you trying to debate, or just badger pro-choicers? If you are seriously trying to argue a point here, you can't assume the point that needs to be proven, like when life begins. Dictionaries define life as the period between birth and death. Look it up yourself in any of these online dictionaries: http://www.onelook.com/?w=life&ls=a

Secondly, just because I am pro-choice, that doesn't mean I literally kill "children" OR embryos, so once again, your argument is hyperbole.

It would have been more useful to you if you had looked up the meaning of "transvaginal" instead of the french word for butcher shop. It means "through or via the vagina: transvaginal ultrasound." Here's a helpful illustration:



At 8 weeks, an abdominal ultrasound can be done, but most abortions are performed before that.