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LOL I was going to ask the same thing.

 

...it was expected from ALL marriages. Divine intervention was the only reason it might not occur. Women prayed for offspring.

 

now you're arguing that magical sky fairies have some relevance to the legal institution of marriage?

dude, put down the shovel

 

Divine sky fairies ruled the day for thousands of years. You must know exactly zero about most everything. They haven't invented the metric to measure that amount of ignorance yet.

 

again, you're arguing that magical sky fairies have some relevance to the LEGAL institution of marriage?

seriously, put down the shovel.

 

HlSTORICAL

Put down the bong.

 

arguments from tradition are fallacies.

 

It's a statement about history.

So then admit that all previous history has no precedent for gay marriage.

Then you won't be an intellectually dishonest drone.

 

used as an argument against same sex marriage. it's a fallacy.

why would I admit to a falsehood?

Since I've had to correct you at ever exchange here, I'd be careful about throwing out terms like intellectually dishonest drone.

 

America needs more Muslims in order to get the Queers under control. A little bit of head chopping and back into the closet go the Queers.

 

Show the historical precedent.

No? Nothing?

Buh bye.

 

I already have. marriage is a civil right. as such the 14th amendment precludes discrimination based on gender.

the legal institution of marriage simply creates a legal kinship where none existed prior. that's it.

 

And then there is the real world.

It should be noted, however, that conubium existed only between a civis Romanus and a civis Romana (that is, between a male Roman citizen and a female Roman citizen), so that a marriage between two Roman males (or with a slave) would have no legal standing in Roman law (apart, presumably, from the arbitrary will of the emperor in the two aforementioned cases).[80] Furthermore, according to Susan Treggiari, "matrimonium is an institution involving a mother, mater. The idea implicit in the word is that a man takes a woman in marriage, in matrimonium ducere, so that he may have children by her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

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No it doesnt. It only precludes unconstitutional discrimination based upon gender.

 

It's only a civil right in that we have the right to practice our religion. Marriage is a religious institution PERIOD.

Gays could have won this "victory" years ago if they would have stuck with that argument.

 

that's what I just said.

 

in some countries, absolutely. in the US however, it is a legal institution.

I think they're happy for this victory, with a constitutional one.

 

Nope, you claimed the 14th precludes gender discrimination. While it in fact only precludes discrimination deemed to be unconstitutional. Rather ignorant claim considering the 14th amendment enshrined the discrimination in voting for women.

 

It's only a legal institution here because the government tends to stick its nose into everything, whether they belong there or not and no one told them no.

The word marriage should not appear in a single government document. Every single right,privilege, yada yada should be handled via contract. Any persons should be able to enter into a contract with any other consenting person. End of argument.

 

Originally Posted by Radio Refugee :
Show the historical precedent.

No? Nothing?

You're ignorant of the word 'precedent'?

What are you doing here? You need to be in a GED class.

 

Plenty of kids need parents as we have seen over the past decades. The general departure from One Nation Under God has put the United States in a position of doing what the masses choose and what is necessary or perceived as necessary at that time. I am one of those who believe God is still on the throne and we all need redemption
Gays and Straight.

 

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/equivoqu.html

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meaningless drivel. marriage remains a legal institution regardless.

all well and good ideas. all irrelevant though. marriage is a legal institution.

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I've corrected you at every turn. I don't know what else you expect from me.

 

yes you will but it makes you look stupid every time you do

 

are you insane?

 

we don't live in Rome no one requires you to have kids when you get married or to be able to you cant provide any answers to why we should not have gay marriage or how its not unjustifiable discrimination no one can that's why gay marriage is happening

you get that right

 

but its not true marriage is what we make of it we have made it a legal thing that can be completely separate from any religion