Only a racist could love the abortion industry. They've killed far more People of Color than the KKK.
Hey, Spider, you do know that Margaret Sanger was pro-"life" and was friends with Martin Luther King Jr, right? Go ahead and think about that for a sec...I'll be back in a few hours.
As that comment is directed at a single pro-lifer, your flight of fancy to assuming is covers all pro-lifers only serves to tell me you have some misgiving yourself.
I really couldn't care less what you profess to be, your comments display only one thing, that you have a serious problem with women and one has to question why that is. Actually he had the greatest respect for women, something you could obviously do with learning. So not only are disrespectful to women you also discriminate against anybody who doesn't meet your ideals. I wouldn't expect anything less from a misogynist Neanderthal with delusions of the master race.
No, you had a point and I used it to showcase your ignorance. Would you like for me to embarrass you again? If a man beats his pet dog in front of on lookers, they can report. Anything else you'd like for me to spell out to you? How are you going to stop her, Spider? Your actions speak for themselves. If they could be protected, then why have they resulted in mass failure? 20,000,000 illegal abortions go directly unchallenged by you every year. Pro-"lifers" are incompetent. They have nothing to offer to the abortion discussion beyond their whines and cries. Why do you people even matter? It is no more as arbitrary then suggesting personhood at conception. It is all personal perspective. You are literally a fish out of water, Spider. Without a master to dictate how you are to respond, you are effectively disarmed in our discussions. This really takes the enjoyment out of discussing anything with you.
Reciting a lie over and over again does not make it a truth, Mr.Goebbels. When you can't win a debate, always cry racism. You aren't doing anyone a favor by wielding such a word solely for political gain, at the expense of cheapening true racism throughout the world. This is pretty low, Spider. Are you this desperate to gain a footing within our discussion to cry wolf? Pathetic. In all fairness, eugenics was a widely held belief back in Sanger's times, with 30-40% of the population supporting it. However, the eugenics movement was a product of it's time; much like the concept of a flat Earth during the stone age. Taking a shot at Sanger for believing in eugenics is just the pro-"life" movement picking low hanging fruit. First, this is a lie, Sanger never believed that eugenics should be conducted through termination. However, she believed that eugenics should be up done through choice and never coercion by the state. Secondly, the criticism of Sanger is not only unfair (because she was against abortion) but ignorant. Planned Parenthood didn't provide abortions until after was dead. How Sanger's ignorant views on eugenics reflects Planned Parenthood today are about as relevant as her position on abortion. If Planned Parenthood by, extension of Sanger's views alone, makes Planned Parenthood favor eugenics then the organization is also pro-"life." Lastly, even Nazi Germany hated Margaret Sanger enough to automatically ban and burn her books. This would appear to be a slam dunk, but it is a quote taken out of context. As a part of the birth control movement, Sanger was expressing her concern that blacks living in the South would view her "Negro Project" as an attempt to limit their race. Other leaders of the African-American community who were involved in the project included Mary McLeod Bethune, founder of the National Council of Negro Women, and Adam Clayton Powell Jr., pastor of the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. The Negro Project was also endorsed by prominent white Americans who were involved in social justice efforts at this time, including Eleanor Roosevelt, the most visible and compassionate supporter of racial equality in her era; and the medical philanthropists, Albert and Mary Lasker, whose financial support made the project possible. A passionate opponent of racism, Sanger predicted in 1942 that the "Negro question" would be foremost on the country's domestic agenda after World War II. Her accomplishments on behalf of the African-American community were unchallengeable during her lifetime and remain so today. In 1966, the year Sanger died, the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. said: There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. . . . Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her. Even though you take Lader's comment out of context, I am too bored to explain to you the reason behind it. Let's say for the sake of your petty argument that Lader is the most firebrand racist ever to grace the Earth; so what? How do the views of one man, or even 20, define an entire movement composed of millions of people? Many of the founding fathers of our nation were racist slave owners; does that make all Americans racist slave owners too? Come on, Spider, you can do better. You're getting desperate. You've lost every argument and have been reduced down to using an incredibly weak point.
And there are also pro-"life" bigots too. "I guess we have 250,000 Vietnamese here already, and they are going to have large families; the Orientals always do. God knows how many Mexicans cross the border every night...And if we ever have to fight the Russians, I wonder if these people will be willing to stake their lives." -- Father Paul Marx, chairman of Human Life International "Moslems are taking over Western Europe, if you are not a friend of Allah, you're an enemy... they will kill you to please Allah." -- Father Paul Marx "Why is there this attitude of degenerated masochism which makes us destroy systematically our own breed and race and makes us passively watch how our own mental, moral, and biological inheritance is getting wasted and ruined?" -- Siegfried Ernst, Former German Advisor to HLI "Europe is already beyond the point of no return, say the greatest prolifer in Europe, Dr Siegfried Ernst - and I agree." -- Father Paul Marx "Notice how many Jews helped lead the infamous abortion planning meeting in Los Angeles, which I exposed; some 40 percent of the speakers were Jewish. Also note the large numbers of abortionists (consult the Yellow Pages) and pro-abortion medical professors who are Jewish." -- Father Paul Marx And that is only the tip of the iceberg.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...in-claim-abortion-clinics-are-aimed-at-black/ Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ion-clinics-are-aimed-at-black/#ixzz2ZGh1MGUR
Do you blindly believe everything someone tells you? Just because someone says they do, doesn't mean they do. I didn't see any proof of institutionalized targeting of black people.
Eugenics seems like an elite preoccupation. What's your proof? Please provide evidence if you make a statement. You've made a lot of false, foolish statements and it's very hard for anyone to take you seriously. Evidence? Again if you make a statement provide evidence. Do you lack basic reading skills, is that the problem? quote: Sanger did not rule out coercion if the "wrong" people had children. She wrote, "Possibly drastic and Spartan methods may be forced upon society if it continues complacently to encourage the chance and chaotic breeding that has resulted from our stupidly cruel sentimentalism." quote: Margaret Sanger appointed Lothrop Stoddard as a board member of the Birth Control League, the forerunner of Planned Parenthood. And as we will see later, Stoddard was an avid supporter of eugenics, forced sterilization, and Germany's Adolph Hitler. LINK quote: The American model of race improvement by means of sterilizing the “unfit” would be replicated by the Third Reich. “[T]he Germans enacted compulsory sterilization laws partly based on the U.S. experience, and American eugenicists took pride in their influence on Nazi policies. LINK Upper class liberals so often pretend to care about People of Color even as these limousine liberals disempower People of Color. Don't you see the significance? He was an important leader of the pro-abortion movement. Obvious.
Even a eugenicist like Sanger sometimes stopped short of killing an unborn baby in her mother's womb. Think about that.
More facts to discomfort the mindless, zombie-like tools of the abortion industry. 79% of Planned Parenthood Abortion Clinics Target Blacks, Hispanics Klan Parenthood The Planned Parenthood Racism Project EUGENICS AND THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT
"As a social movement, eugenics reached its greatest popularity in the early decades of the 20th century. At this point in time, eugenics was practiced around the world and was promoted by governments, and influential individuals and institutions. Many countries enacted various eugenics policies and programs, including: genetic screening, birth control, promoting differential birth rates, marriage restrictions, segregation (both racial segregation and segregation of the mentally ill from the rest of the population), compulsory sterilization, forced abortions or forced pregnancies and genocide. Most of these policies were later regarded as coercive and/or restrictive, and now few jurisdictions implement policies that are explicitly labeled as eugenic or unequivocally eugenic in substance." Source: Ridley, Matt (1999). Genome: The Autobiography of a Species in 23 Chapters. New York: HarperCollins. pp. 290–1. ISBN 978-0-06-089408-5. Says the little Spider who often gets caught distorting information and parroting lies. I am still patiently waiting for you to provide evidence on multiple claims you've made but I see you have chosen to ignore my requests and just start new subjects any time I put you in your place. Your hypocrisy is quite pathetic. LOL! Are you trying to make me laugh? You throw a temper tantrum about providing evidence and criticizing my ability to read but fail to provide any evidence for the two quotes below. Spider, do you EVER read the links you provide? Your source doesn't even cite where they come from. Once, again, you are making claims without citing evidence. By the way, Sanger wrote, "we [do not] believe that the community could or should send to the lethal chamber the defective progeny resulting from irresponsible and unintelligent breeding.[1]" Similarly, Sanger denounced the aggressive and lethal Nazi eugenics program[2]. In addition, Sanger believed the responsibility for birth control should remain in the hands of able-minded individual parents rather than the state, and that self-determining motherhood was the only unshakable foundation for racial betterment[3]. [1]Black, Edwin (September 2003) [2003]. The War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race. New York City, NY: Four Walls Eight Windows. ISBN 1-56858-258-7., p 251. Sanger's quote from The Pivot of Civilization, p 100 [2]"The Sanger-Hitler Equation", Margaret Sanger Papers Project Newsletter, #32, Winter 2002/3. New York University Department of History [3]Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5 And this is relevant how? Nazi Germany's eugenics program was largely influenced and supported by the state of California. "California eugenicists began producing literature promoting eugenics and sterilization and sending it overseas to German scientists and medical professionals.[1] By 1933, California had subjected more people to forceful sterilization than all other U.S. states combined. The forced sterilization program engineered by the Nazis was partly inspired by California's." [1] Ian Kershaw, Hitler: A Profile in Power, Chapter VI, first section (London, 1991, rev. 2001) "Evidence? Again if you make a statement provide evidence. Do you lack basic reading skills, is that the problem?[1]" [1] Anansi the Spider, http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/309796-feminism-breast-cancer-12.html#post1062879183 Is THIS really the route you want to take, Spider? You're committing a logic fallacy; association fallacy. The only thing OBVIOUS here is that you don't understand logic. This is why it is so easy for me to debunk all this crap you spew.
The video of people saying Planned Parenthood targets black women because there are Planned Parenthood clinics in black neighborhoods? See above.
