What Is Main Lesson To BE Learned From the Zimmerman Case ?

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Dodge noted.


    Uh no and why not? Because there is a freakin sidewalk in the back of the houses. Please stop telling the lie about him looking into houses, even Zimmerman didn't say that bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    And when pulled forward hide your face.

    Then why wasn't he walking on it and instead up under the awnings?

    Cold cocking then mounting Zimmerman and threatening him with serious bodily harm.

    You are correct he had not right to a stand your ground use of deadly force since he was not in imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death and no as has been noted blacks in Florida use the SYG law more that whites and used successfully more than white. Why do you claim it is only reserved for whites?
     
  2. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easy now, It was my position 2 idiots seen each other that night.


     
  3. superbadbrutha

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    Whats to dodge, last I checked they were not in a convience store. So that pretty much cancels out that bull(*)(*)(*)(*).


    Or to keep the rain out of your face and please tell us how you know it was pulled forward.


    Uh because it was raining, duh.



    What a bunch of pus........never mind. All I can say if you are a 205lb grown man and you can't handle a 158lb teenager you are a straight up punk and any man who would try to defend him must be also.



    How do you know what (*)(*)(*)(*)ing danger he was in? Where you there that night?

    - - - Updated - - -

    So walking home from the store and noticing some guy following you makes you an idiot.
     
  4. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, how you respond is what counts. Especially when you have some street smarts about you and as a idiot kid myself.....I have had the pleasure of growing old.


     
  5. CyberCynic

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    how much of a beating does a person have to take before they have the right to defend their life?

    What if Zimmerman were a woman?

    Why was Trayvon's father a witness for the defense and not the prosecution?

    Why didn't the lawyers press the kid who was waiting for Trayvon to return from the store, as to why he was not concerned that Trayvon had not returned? He also claimed he did not hear the commotion of the police arriving to the crime scene, because he was playing a video game??? This video is only fifteen minutes - nice and easy for you.
    [video=youtube_share;ps4G5RlJdI0]http://youtu.be/ps4G5RlJdI0[/video]
    The reason is, it was a gang initiation hit, and Trayvon failed.
     
  6. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Pretty sure if Traygone was white, purple or spotted... if he was sitting on a guy hitting him "MMA style" as witnesses said... Zimmerman would have shot him.

    Justifiably so.
     
  7. Pred

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    Justifying the man slaughter, ONLY because he's BEATING him senseless...seriously are you trolling? Good to know you would prefer dying or be stricken with brain damage when someone is on top of you, punching your face and banging your head on the side walk. Maybe your posts would make more sense after such an injury=)

    I don't think ANYONE has ever justified Trayvon being murdered for simply walking home. If thats all that happened he'd be alive right now.
     
  8. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    No one is justifying murder, they are justifying self-defense.

    Big difference.

    Read a book or two.
     
  9. Riot

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    Why do you care about this one unarmed kid? Why not others?
     
  10. Riot

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    Do you only care about the kids killed by half white people? If so here are a few killed by a half white man named Obama http://www.policymic.com/mobile/art...killed-by-drone-strikes-in-pakistan-and-yemen
    Maybe you can call him out for murder also. Maybe you can march for these murdered children.
     
  11. Lil Mike

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    I'm amazed at the number of people of all races who desperately have turned this incident into a racial one, even though there isn't a shred of evidence to support it. I should say, that you should be ashamed of yourself for perpetuating that. You either know better and just want to stir things up, or your feelings on this case are totally uninfluenced by either known facts or reason.
     
  12. Xanadu

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    This Zimmer case can be added to the other events that happened over the past years and months. Assange documents leaks, London machete attack, Snowden PRISM, Zimmer racial. All events caused the same, anger, fear and even hate (means rising emotions in the masses, because the news was spreaded by mass media, this is causing a more radical society, civilisation is dropping, political extremes rising) And every time another event happens we see political change (either terror, a criminal act by a lunatic, or provocation or leaking documents or spying on citizens) All these events in society, plus the economic uncertainty amplifies emotion in more and more people (radicalizes people), and start to resist (they want change, want a peaceful world) Politics has gained from all these events, because when there is more defence (by fear, danger and anger) built up in the people, people can be organized much easier (they will vote on the more radical parties with a tougher stance), this has happened, political flanks (far right and far left) grew. And because of that, opposition to that will grow, so a political fight starts to rise between left, right and opposition of citizens/voters (each side agrees with their leader/party) Twelve years of fear, anger, worsen economy has caused political change and mass organisation (a new large party came into existance, the TP, a thirth mass organisation) Period y2k to present has caused one major thing to the world, mass organisation (in Egypt very cleary visible, even when the world sees that they can't see that is happening to them too and to most other populations) The lesson is, that an emotional event plus mass media is causing radicalisation and organisation of people who see that on tv (visual information is nailed into people's minds, they respond with emotion, and politics is usng emotion poltics, using words that people want to hear) The emotion of the German people (a period with depression and euphorism) has ended their freedom.
     
  13. Sane Centrist

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    Protectionist……..

    I love your revisionist history, are you a professional fiction writer by trade?

    I don’t think you looked at yourself with a straight face while you were typing all of those inaccuracies about American history.

    I absolutely love the way people always try to downplay or marginalize the role Caucasians had in the “ugly side” of the development of this country, but I digress.

    Look, millions of people have taken to these forums since the verdict was reached and as expected many people have their own opinions over it.

    Regardless of what all you Zimmermann supporters say or are willing to accept, letting Zimmerman get off Scott free for killing a minor was criminal, and unfortunately this is about race.

    I would be just as upset if the child he killed were a white child but I also know that had that child been white, Zimmerman would be playing hide the soap right about now with Bubba………………….where he belongs…..
     
  14. protectionist

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    1 If you think something is wrong with my post then SPECIFCALLY repond to it (not with hot air rhetoric). Got a real answer ? Let's hear it.

    2. If you have some SPECIFIC evidence to show that the Zimmerman trial was criminal, let's hear it.

    3. If you have some SPECIFIC evidence to show that this about race, let's hear it.
     
  15. djlunacee

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    Why should a man who commited no crime be sent to jail? Just to satisfy the masses? So the bleeding heart left can feel good? It wasn't about race until the left wing media and its TOP dog the POTUS made it about race. And in the end when it all came out it is actually revealed that Trayvon martin was the one using racial epithets, and profiling Zimmerman as a gay rapist, and instead of going home he decided to commit a hate crime against a creepy a$$ cracka who he thought was a gay rapist. If you want to make it about race then let it be known that the instant Trayvon Martin threw the first punch and escalated the situation he commited a hate crime to the letter of the law, and felony assault at the very least. Trayvon Martin is dead because of Trayvon Martin. Put responsibility where it belongs and leave a man who was defending himself alone.

    I don't care either way if the roles were reversed, according to the law the verdict was correct and the only one that could be reached based on the evidence and testimony presented at trial.
     
  16. Sane Centrist

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    Protectionist,

    Please forgive me for not being more specific, but where would one even begin to pick apart the sea of inconstancies regarding your fantastical numbers regarding how many whites owned slaves during the time of slavery of this country.

    Oh and by the way you’re opening salvo of: “And this racist idiocy is exactly why Blacks will never gain the respect of Whites in America”

    Wow, you seriously said that? Well that’s mighty white of you. I wasn’t aware blacks needed the approval of the “chosen ones”.

    Dude………the entire south fought to keep slavery alive & well because of the economic boon it was for them. Slavery was prevalent throughout all of the southern states and many, many, many families owned slaves so let’s just stop all that nonsense real quick.

    Next, perpetuating the narrative that blacks should blame their distant African tribal leaders for all their troubles is extremely disingenuous. Blacks have had to endure that nonsense forever, and it doesn’t magically eliminate or disavow the role Caucasians had regarding the matter.

    Here’s some light reading for you regarding the matter: http://www.reunionblackfamily.com/apps/blog/show/11782086-we-did-not-sell-each-other-into-slavery


    To constantly bring up the fact over & over again how black African tribal leaders gathered and sold other Africans into slavery does not negate or diminish the fact that whites capitalized, perpetuated, and thrived on slavery.

    I’m fully aware of the Arab/African/Spaniard slave trade that went on for centuries before anybody ever heard of the continent now known as America, but please do no insult my intelligence or attempt to disconnect white peoples role in one of the most pervasive, disgusting inhumane acts ever committed.

    As far as your thinly veiled attempt to equate Affirmative Action to whites including blacks into the framework and construct of the American lexicon………………..oh please.

    Affirmative Action was unfortunately inspired from the very thing I was talking about. Every neighborhood & business built in this country from the time the first town was settled up through the fifties was not built with any people of color in mind.

    People of color were thrown in shanty towns along rivers or on the outskirts of thriving communities all up & down the East Coast.

    Those neighborhoods, schools, institutions of high learning, business’s, etc. etc. etc. were all never built with the idea of blacks ever partaking or sharing in them. You and I both know that, and the fact that the Supreme Court had to force corporations and institutions of higher learning to include people of color or establish quotas is shameful.

    Blacks hate Affirmative Action as much as whites do but for different reasons. Blacks hate it because it was ever necessary in the first place, and if it weren’t for Affirmative Action most blacks would still be collecting garbage & shining shoes to this day.

    Drudging up whatever Trayvon Martin did or whatever trouble he got into before the night he was killed is irrelevant. The night he was killed he was on a mission to go get candy and then go back home.

    Smoking weed a few weeks earlier, or on that night or whenever is irrelevant. Getting into some trouble at school before that night is irrelevant. What’s relevant is the fact that a grown man didn’t have the wisdom, guts, and common sense to avoid killing a kid that was kicking his ass for being a prick.

    Where in the world you get the info that blacks are allowed to commit crimes and get away with them because there black is so far beyond me that I don’t even know how to respond to that. I guess the next thing you’ll be telling me is that blacks have a lower tax bracket than whites as well.

    Try again……………..I majored in US History and I know the history of this country. A history that isn’t spotless or anything to really be all that proud of. This country was built on a ton of sins my friend, and many people were crushed so that America could thrive.
     
  17. Sane Centrist

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    djlunacee,

    It’s amazing how you Zimmerman supporters are privy to so many facts surrounding this case that nobody else has ever heard of. It’s amazing how all of these revelations about just how evil Trayvon was only seem to be coming from your side.

    One has to wonder just how accurate that information is………

    My guess is that after tuning into all the idiots on right-wing radio like Limbaugh, and Red State, you pick up this FALSE ammo about Trayvon to throw at the computer screen and see if it sticks.

    That’s all nice but……….none of it changes the facts that:

    “an armed, full grown man shot an unarmed child”.

    Now you can wordsmith, twist and play musical chairs with the info from here to eternity, but you’ll never be able to change those undeniable facts.

    You all seem absolutely overjoyed that this kid got shot for throwing a punch.

    That alone says something very, very ugly for your side. Something so ugly that the only thing we should feel for all of you is sorry.

    Truly I feel sorry for anybody that can defend some creep for killing a kid as obsessively as you guys are.

    You all must be so proud of yourselves……..
     
  18. Riot

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    Creep killing kids. http://www.policymic.com/mobile/art...killed-by-drone-strikes-in-pakistan-and-yemen
    The left doesn't care much about these died unarmed children do they?
     
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    Whoop-dee-doo. Musta been a white motorist, cause otherwise, he would have shot him and claimed self defense.
     
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    The main thing I learned was that when I stalk and provoke someone into a confrontation and I murder them, to make sure you get away with it .make sure you self-inflict some appropriate damage to yourself and make sure you get the victims fingerprints and DNA on yourself and the gun. Zimmerman did get away with it ,but he forgot these two last crucial steps. So all you future Zimmermans write this down.
     
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    If those steps are 'crucial', then why do you suppose he was found not guilty?
     
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    Because the trial was about the evidence and not the imagination. :eyepopping:
     
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    Nobody had the analytical ability to identify the gun shape of Z's owies.
     
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    Except conspiracy theorists of course. :roflol:
     
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    Which isnt a crime when done in self defense. But you think because he is white and Trayvon is black, the law shouldnt apply. Some kind of reparations against the white man for the benefit of the black man.
     
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