What Is Main Lesson To BE Learned From the Zimmerman Case ?

Let’s be perfectly clear on something here….

I served in the Marine Corps many years ago during peace time and I welcome the use of drones if they will keep US soldiers off the battlefield and out of harm’s way.

But I absolutely do not support a drone program that can’t get its targets correct and in the process kill innocent children.

The killing of innocents throughout the world disgusts me, and I am very ashamed of our excellent military that has yet to perfect it zoning & targeting practices.

I think it’s shameful and there are no excuses for it.

Anything else you want to throw at me???

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dixon76710,

Please find for me in my statement:

(That’s all nice but……….none of it changes the facts that:
“an armed, full grown man shot an unarmed child”.)

Any language about race or color.........

Oh....................you can't......................silence...............

 

Too funny. I'm guessing you didn't listen to the expert medical expert testimony at the trial. And make sure you get a witness that sees you under the perp when you are self-inflicting your multiple injuries.

 

Read what he said, it wasn't about imagination!

 

Not so factual in actual reality. If Trayvon were allowed to continue beating Zimmerman to death or had taken Z's gun and shot Z to death with it, he would have surely been tried as an adult. So I take exception to your characterization that a 6 foot tall 160 lb athletic young man was a "child"! Get that media pollution out of your mind.

 

In all your previous posts in this thread ranting about the white man enslaving the black man

 

I enjoyed it when O'Mara carried the huge chunk of concrete into the court procedings. A deadly weapon.

 

[video=youtube_share;WpUAFGqwiJY]http://youtu.be/WpUAFGqwiJY[/video]

 

Their own criminal element is the sole cause of racial discrimination. Blacks should blame the gangstas and other ghetto guttersnipes for giving them a bad name. Until they do that, they deserve to be looked at suspiciously, have doors locked, and the other pity-party things Obama was whining about.

Their failure to do that indicates that they actually admire the criminal element and wish they had the "ghetto guts" to behave that way. That's why even giving opportunities to those who would have qualified without Affirmative Action was a mistake; practically all of them use their success to promote a disgrace to their race. Again, they were conformist wimps who, when that paid off, felt they had to prove their manhood to the thugs who had made fun of them by playing for the thugs' side in the blame game.

Obama regrets that, when he was 18 he wasn't "man" enough to suckerpunch somebody and pound his head into the pavement. By joining the Hug a Thug clique, he's got street cred now and has become an Honorary Gangsta. He ought to give his next speech wearing a do-rag and sagging pants. He's entitled to the uniform now.

 

Not quite so. If Trayvon had successfully found Zimmerman's gun on his right hip, instead of it being on his left, as was described at his conspiracy intel-report, he might have succeeded in the execution of Zimmerman, and the successful acquisition of the fire arm; providing Trayvon gang dominance with that gun. Trayvon would have been the baddest mother-(*)(*)(*)(*)er in the whole Southeast United States.

His alibi involves the kid waiting for Skittles, and Rachel Jeantel; and probably his father. But they did not figure on Trayvon failing the execution, and instead of accepting the truth, Trayvon's father sought to try to beat the justice system - and it is all bugged up, and he know's it, because the trial probably had falsehoods that he knows are wrong, but he cannot make the claims, otherwise it indicates his culpability of Zimmerman's attempted murder and to Trayvon's death. The child abuse charge was a signal to Trayvon's father, because they know the father taught Trayvon how to fight and was preparing to mentor him into forming a gang.

I'll bet there is a law that parents are supposed to know where there children are between 12:00 and 6:00 AM that Trayvon's father failed when he failed to call in the missing person's report, and they slapped ii on him with the verdict.

 

Listen friend. IF you had read even ONE of my posts you would know that I'm 100% supportive of George and what he did to the punk.
I was simply pointing out the ludicrous BS MSNBC comes out with using sarcasm.

 

Because the trial was a ruse to (*)(*)(*)(*) with the rest of the gang. Trayvon was wearing gloves, but they did not introduce them into the trial. The cut on Zimmerman's nose is from part of the synthetic athletic/work glove piercing the flesh, and probably causing the marks on his forehead.

 

In a year and a half you have put up the best post I've read. Congrates! (Mind if I use it.....foot noting you as the writer of course)

 

Nope it all yours. Thanks. Lol

 

I too have a degree in history and another in education. You are conveniently missing one salient point about who sold who to the Europeans. Your quote:"To constantly bring up the fact over & over again how black African tribal leaders gathered and sold other Africans into slavery does not negate or diminish the fact that whites capitalized, perpetuated, and thrived on slavery." See, right there you are already making an excuse for how Blacks treated other Blacks. Don't you see that?
If the slaves were 'not on offer' the Europeans would not have been able to buy them.
The world was different back then and to constantly bring up the injustices of the past and thereby make excuses for a failing race on account of those injustices is ironically saying b/c their Black ancestors were brought to America as slaves no Black generation since should be accountable for their actions b/c they can't now 'keep up' with every other race in the country. I guess in a perfect world no Black would have ever been sold into slavery by another Black and all the Blacks would have been able to stay in Africa right? What would Africa look like now right? No Whitey 'crackers' to tell them what to do. Just hundreds and hundreds of years of continual tribal warfare/civil war. You know. Like in pretty much every country in Africa today. That, in my opinion is racism in the extreme. Just had a visit from a friend who forth generation farm in SA has been burned and looted. That family over decades gave honest/secure employment to hundreds of Blacks who were then able to live peaceful productive lives and help their children go to schools and universities. Those employees were NOT slaves by any means. They were treated with the utmost respect. Now a bunch of 'young Black men' have destroyed the farm and the equipment and the once productive land will never be so again. Think on that. It's happening all over southern Africa. I swear, it's like how the 'young Black men' are behaving in every inner city in America. "If it's beautiful and peaceful and prosperous destroy it".
Think 'forth year' not first semester when drawing your conclusions.

 

You want to insult White people, I guess you prefer to live in Haiti, Somalia, Zimbabwe, Rwanda, or Uganda. Or maybe you like the Mayans in Apocalypto? You make your own choice on what race you want to get aheads and what races get in the way of human progress. Evolution has already made that choice and it isn't pretty. Go chant Kumbaya around the campfire with your petting zoo. You'll be happy to know that the marshmallows will be white.

OLD SCHOOL: The American Way
NEW AGE: Americans, Get the ###k out of Our Way!

 

And the Hug a Thug Trayvestites dumbed down to having the mentality of 5-year-olds. Must be that Global Warming, but it seems to affect only gungrabbers. I think I'll write a scare story on that and get the big bucks. If you peer-review it for me, I'll cut you in on some of the loot.

 

Making the Black man better off than most White people at the time and far better off than the Blacks who got stuck back in the jungle with their violent, stupid, and starving brothers. Better to pick cotton than to become a lion's lunch.

 

That is except you. HAAAA HAAAAAA
Bernie and AC and the entire State's legal team were so stupid they never saw what you saw. Hope you're making some big money off being so amazingly brilliant............not driving a UPS truck right?

 

Yeah it's funny. Virtually every Black outside America loathes the 'American Blacks'. Why? B/c they see them as having a MILLION more opportunities than they do and they watch as Blacks in America squander their opportunities and then blame the White man. Another time and place and as soon as the industrial revolution made most Black labor obsolete most Blacks in America would have been given a 'one-way' ticket' back to Africa.
New Black immigrants who are willing to work and live non-violent productive lives in America are more than welcomed.

 

wait, so you think that because a kid didn't call the cops when his buddy was late, they were gangbangers? That's crazy, you know that right?

 

AWESOME VIDEO !!! Everyone in America should watch it.

 

Whaler17,

If If If If If If

If I had a million dollars and enough time I could educate and raise you to the level of a fifth grader………….

 

Protectionist,

I’m not that Pollyannaish or delusional to not be aware of the problems within some of the black communities across not only this country, but in other countries as well.

Nor am I one of those people that would place all of the ills that fall upon blacks solely at the heels of all white people.

I have verbally beaten up many blacks for not taking more responsibility of their lives and playing the blame game.

I was taught by my parents to never enter the house saying the words: I can’t do (fill-in-the-blank) because “the man” won’t let me.

That said, I am familiar with the black community and its struggles. I’m familiar with a system that has basically written blacks out of the equation whether their working hard to get in or not.

I don’t hold all whites responsible for the problems or frustrations of every black person in this country, but as race pertains to this case (and race does pertain to this case) many whites have no idea how the verdict smacks of disingenuousness.

If your suggesting that blacks should just be grateful for the crumbs (and that’s what they been) given to them by their white counterparts in this country over the years, your wrong.

If you’re suggesting that blacks should be grateful to be here opposed to being in Africa and that they should somehow thank America for rescuing them from a war torn land, then I would offer that for all your intelligence you have completely missed the point.

By your logic, if tribal leaders hadn’t offered up slaves then whites would have just gone somewhere else to get them, and today’s blacks should place all the blame of slavery on those leaders.

Europeans could have just cultivated the new land in harmony with the people that were already occupying the land, was that just too much to ask for? A lot of people don't know that Europeans first tried to enslave Native Indians, but they were a little to wiley for them so they gave up. (check your history)

Europeans could have just shared the space with the people that was already here.

Europeans could have rejected the offer from the Dutch (yes it was the Dutch) to embark on a mission to procure slaves from Africa.

Your logic is equivalent to: don’t blame the drug user for buying drugs from the drug dealer (even though he knew it was wrong) blame the drug dealer for selling the drugs. They are both causal parts of an insideous, toxic problem, and both equally to blame.

There are very few white people in this country who truly understand what the black experience has been or is, and we (as a country) have long had a disconnect between the two races because of that lack of understanding.

I would admit that there are many blacks that really don’t care to bridge any divides or build any bridges because they are so consumed with a hatred of their history, past, and role in this country. They frimly believe that Europeans were responsible for that history.

Let’s get past the slavery aspect here and get back to the verdict. I will never be able to make you or people that think like you see the moral component here.

All you guys want to focus on is Florida laws, statures, and a plethora of now what we can only describe as urban legends and lies surrounding the facts of this case.

Yes, Trayvon circled back and confronted George because he was pissed off that somebody was following him, yes, he may have smoked some weed that night, yes he was behaving like a bit of a hothead, and yes, he was beating Georg’s ass for George being a busy body.

None of those actions warranted being killed that night. Morally an adult had the, or should have had the mental faculties to avoid the entire situation. But none of you guys are focused on that.

George Zimmerman made a series of really bad decisions that snowballed into a tragedy (as well as Trayvon) yes, but why are you all so focused on a young adults bad behavior……………..he was a kid with a kids immaturity and mentality.

He doesn’t deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt for those reasons? When did we become so overly harsh of a teenager? And why won’t anybody from your side admit….that had George killed a white kid this entire event would have been different and gone in a totally different direction.

If Trayvon Martin were white, all of the things people are currently blaming Trayvon for - would be excused if it were a blond haired, blue eyed kid……………and deep within your heart you know I’m right.

It just seems to me that it’s deplorable to put a dead kid on trial for his own death, and to simply continually be so dismissive about it like he was a dog or something.

With comments like: "Trayvon threw the first punch so he deserved to die under Florida law." (seriously)

My advice for you would be to open your mind and try to put yourself in the shoes of a young black kid that has grown up his entire life hearing countless stories of relatives and friends being profiled, suspected and treated like criminals.

Those types of stories tend to stick my friend, and eventually when it happens to you it’s very hard to keep your composure and just be respectful & obliging, ask me how I know.

Protectionist………..Trayvon didn’t have to die that night, dude he just didn’t have to die, and if you can’t see that then there’s nothing more I can say.

 

Bernie did see that those marks were not from hitting concrete.