Vegitarians?

I think a rational creature like a human should act in a more ethical way. Chimps murder and rape each other. So do we when we aren;t constrained by laws.

Doesn;t make it right

 

My wife unfortunately has high cholesterol and its genetic, she eats hardly any of the bad foods that would increase cholesterol, she also cant take Cholesterol medication shes tried several and they all cramp her muscles so bad she cant walk. She now takes a very low dose every other day, she still gets cramps but she deals with them.
We eat alot of whole grain whole wheat pasta with cannelini beans along with fish and chicken. Im not vegan I have no cholesterol probs but I do it for her and when we dine out, then I get my meat.

 

I've been a vegan for about five months, for moral reasons (I believe it's wrong to kill other animals for food). I'm certainly not thin, gaunt, or unhealthy; in fact, I'm nearly in the best shape of my life.

 

I'm not vegan or vegetarian, and have no intention to become either, but this is an interesting thread. I'm also surprised at how civil it's been so far.

 

I'm not a vegetarian but I eat lashings of fresh fruit and vegetables. The fruit and vegetables are just so good here in Laos,, cheap and plentiful.

I don't eat a lot of red meat although I do enjoy a good steak. I do eat quite a bit of fresh fish. Here, fish is usually purchased while it's still swimming in tubs, unless I buy Atlantic salmon imported from Norway.

 

Kind of like buying "on the hoof"? Do you pick out the one you want and leave with it, or what?

 

Yep,, pick the one you want. It gets an knock on the head, then cleaned and scaled.

 

Sounds neat. Especially the "someone else cleans it" part.

 

Careful now, unless you are trying to further divide this country, this time along nutritional lines. I'm sure the retrogressives are going to correlate your lack of red meat with leftism and poofterness.

 

Why go backwards evolutionarily?

 

Does she or her family have heart problems? If not, I wouldn't worry about her cholesterol and certainly wouldn't take cholesterol lowering medications. If there is a history of heart problems, she does have to worry about it.

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No, we just correlate it with a lack of good sense

 

Because it a step forward.

 

Well, there are some that suggest that the reason we could evolve big brains is that we ate meat to support them. (this changed with the advent of farming).

I had a friend who had an interesting view of eating. He was primarily vegan. His exception was wild caught animals/fish. He wouldn't eat farm raised animals, and I assume the same with eggs/milk. His favorite thing when he could get it was wild boar.

 

And there is no evidence to suggest that going vegetarian is a step backwards in evolution.

 

Unfortunately there is a history of heart problems, her father died at 52 of a heart attack, the doctor had addressed family history with her. On the good side her good cholesterol to bad ratio is good and her triglycerides are quite low.

 

Well, it was a joke. Evolution doesn't have any direction.

 

*hugs perdidochas

 

It's absurd but if they want to risk their health to uphold their personal morals that's their choice. But anyone who forces a vegan diet their children should be prosecuted for child abuse/endangerment.

 

mostly paleo but not as much meat (I can tolerate it about once a month, usually red)
I'll have dairy with the occasional latte but I tend to avoid it.
I'll socially eat different stuff if I don't feel like there's any way to avoid it except with barbecues where it supposed to be fun to eat partially cooked yet burnt meat, sorry but no.

 

I try to reduce the amount of meat I eat, and try to eat mostly fish. I think a small amount of dairy products are healthy and good to include, but just a small amount.
I try to get about half my protein from plant sources. I think it is good to include many raw fruits and vegetables, and I think there are some benefits to eating uncooked sushi-grade fish or gravlax, but I am not convinced that eating only raw food is healthier. Also, I think humans evolved to eat cooked starchy roots and grains, since fire has been around for hundreds of thousands of years.

My opinion about whole grains is that it is best to have a mix between whole grains and white. For vegetarians who do not eat meat, they should eat more whole grains.

So in conclusion, I think there is certainly some truth in all types of diets, but it is also good to have some moderation and not be too extremist.

 

I enjoyed a vegetarian meal today as I do many times, not because I believe meat is bad for us, but because I like vegetables. I do tend to prefer seafood and pork to beef. I could munch on fruit almost anytime. Unfortunately too much carbohydrate does a job on my blood sugar so I have to moderate the intake.

I spent part of my early life in India, a place where being a vegetarian really means something besides just a good diet, and I learned to like many of their vegetable dishes. Various masalas (currys), especial potato and cauliflower masala cooked with various spices and onions and green peppers, and a healthy dose of red pepper (preferably fresh) served with rice, are my favorites.

 

I heard many arguments in favour of vegetarianism but I think this is just no-where supported myth. Prefer the good old protein diet

 

Vegetarians can drink regular milk. They don't eat meat, but will still eat dairy products. Some vegetarians will even eat eggs, since they are not actually fertilized when you eat them. Vegans are the ones who don't eat/drink anything that came from an animal.

 

Personally, I think they need to harsher laws against animal cruelty in the dairy and meat industries. They need to fine a company that tortures an animal 10,000 per offense, and after three offenses, they lose their business license all together and are banned from ever owning or working for any business involving animals.

 

I've stopped being a vegetarian since I posted that. Lasted 2 years, but it's just not relevant to me anymore.