The disproven myth of "black-on-black" crime

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  1. Arthur Livingston

    Arthur Livingston New Member

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    Dear friends,

    There are some people in the far-Left community who insist the concept of "black-on-black crime" does not exist. Perhaps they are merely trying to convince us that the violent tendencies of young black males has been significantly overplayed by the print media?

    They are also concerned this "invalid" concept of young violent black males continues to justify Michael Bloomberg’s campaign of police harassment against young black men in New York City! ... Now that's a stretch!

    Here is the strange, preposterous, nonsensical logic of their conclusions!

    "There’s no such thing as “black-on-black” crime. Yes, from 1976 to 2005, 94 percent of black victims were killed by black offenders, but that racial exclusivity was also true for white victims of violent crime — 86 percent were killed by white offenders. Indeed, for the large majority of crimes, you’ll find that victims and offenders share a racial identity, or have some prior relationship to each other."

    The source of this quote and the article from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution follow.

    "In Chicago, 16-year-old Darryl Green was killed, relatives reported, because he refused to join a gang. Unlike most tragedies — which remain local news — this one caught the attention of activist Ben Shapiro, who tweeted and publicized Green’s murder. But this wasn’t a call for help and assistance for Green’s family. Rather, it was his response to wide outrage over the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the killing of Trayvon Martin.

    The idea that “black-on-black” crime is the real story in Martin’s killing isn’t a novel one. Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O’Mara has said that his client “never would have been charged with a crime” if he were black.

    What Shapiro and others miss about crime, in general, is that it’s driven by opportunism and proximity. If African-Americans are more likely to be robbed, or injured, or killed by other African-Americans, it’s because they tend to live in the same neighborhoods as each other. And of course the reverse holds – whites are more likely to live near whites.

    “Black-on-black crime” has been part of the American lexicon for decades, but as a specific phenomenon, it’s no more real than “white-on-white crime.” Unlike the latter, however, the idea of “black-on-black crime” taps into specific fears around black masculinity and black criminality — the same fears that, in Florida, led George Zimmerman to focus his attention on Trayvon Martin, and in New York, continue to justify Michael Bloomberg’s campaign of police harassment against young black men in New York City.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/news/opinion/the-myth-of-black-on-black-crime/nZYQ7/
     
  2. Blackrook

    Blackrook Banned

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    This article is a perfect example of how to lie with statistics.
     
  3. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Get real. That article is just trying to deny the truth. Per capita, blacks are killing blacks at a much higher rate than whites are killing whites. Yes, most murder is intraracial, but the fact is that black folks are killing a lot of black folks.

    Data from 1997-2005 (last that I could find that was broken down racially with per capita data)
    Race/Per capita murder victims/per capita murder offenders
    White/4.7/4.8
    Black/29.6/36.9
    Other/4.1/4.4

    Black on black crime is much worse than white on white crime. Blacks are about 6 times as likely to be murder victims as whites. To deny this, IMHO, is dangerous to the black community.

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf
     
  4. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Just mention Harris & Klebold, Loughner, Holmes and Lanza and see what happens ...
     
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    There is no one anywhere, by any political stripe, who believes this. Jesus H. W. Christ, does anyone have any (*)(*)(*)(*)ing common sense anymore? This opening sentence is like the (*)(*)(*)(*) smell when you walk into the can, you instantly know the only thing underneath it is a massive, useless turd.
     
  6. Arthur Livingston

    Arthur Livingston New Member

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    Ha-Ha!

    You are wrong. :boxing:

    Read the article.

     
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    So the Fascists And Racists Out to Undermine The Freeworld (you FAROUT Freeword people) have decided that the real statistics showing that black-on-black crime can no longer be ignored, have concocted some of your usual imaginary statistics, so you can continue to allow the blacks of the US to be abused....so you can then claim they're being "oppressed" by Americans.
     
  8. Mayor Snorkum

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    Do let's.

    Harris and Klebold....spoiled liberal children of stupid liberal parents...

    Loughner....a DemocRAT in one of the protected classes, the psychotic wing of the RAT party.

    Holmes...the Aurora shooter, right? Another protected psycho RAT.

    Lanza, a retard...errr "autistic" raised by a liberal fool.

    See the connection? That's right. You won't. Because you want to pretend it's something it isn't.
     
  9. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Every conceivable act known to man has been, is, or will be, a crime somewhere in America.
     
  10. Wizard From Oz

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    Please stop making things up to try and score quick political points
     
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    Black on black crime is very real. This idea of it being a myth was brought to you by the same people who think landing on the moon was a hoax.
     
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    Man! You are incredible. How do you think of such complex....yet entirely simple...theories? The connections that you make are just brilliant!

    Yes....there is black on black crime. And there is black on white crime. There is white on white crime and there is white on black crime. At issue among white observers of these facts is whether or not any of these four types of crime is more or less desireable than the others.

    Normal people find all of them equally undesirable. Nutjobs do not.

    Be honest with yourself. This is an anonymous forum. For the sake of real discussion...if nothing else...just say what you really want to say.

    Thanks.
     
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    Whites are talented mass murders. Blacks are talented drive by shooters.
     
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    You notice he didnt mention Choo because it doesnt fit the agenda.
     
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    The ability of liberals to lie to everyone including themselves knows NO LIMITS. That's why they are so dangerous to the republic, when they hold public office.
     
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    Ya gotta give em one thing - they're firm believers in mind over matter. They seem to believe that their conclusions somehow molds reality rather than the other way around.
     
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    No, the issue is which of these are the most prolific in our society. We have a group who comprises 3% of the US population committing nearly half of all murders.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Symbolic interactionism sociology. Reality is simply the result of their collective perceptions.
     
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    Just a thought:

    Can a white person walk through a bad black neighborhood safely?

    Can a Black person walk through a bad white neighborhood safely?


    Answer to #1 would be no.
    Answer to #2 would be yes.

    What would be the reason why?
     
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    It is not unlike religious fanaticism. They are the believers in the one TRUE religion- secular humanist socialism aka Cultural Marxism.

    Forwarding their agenda is worth bankruptcy and societal decay to them because they believe their faith will make things better eventually.

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  20. nom de plume

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    Statistics, research and all data clearly indicate that per capita, blacks commit far more crimes of violence against whites than they do against their brethren.

    Blacks are hesitant to commit crimes against their black brothers and do so only if they need money, or due to personal family squabbles or over a girlfriend. Blacks, however, commit crimes of violence against whites mostly out of sheer, simmering, seething hate for whites.

    All of them are hate crimes, and largely acts of revenge or "payback." Such hate crimes engratiate them with the overall black community which feels a sense of pride and satisfaction for having taking revenge against a white.

    Yet another reason why blacks target whites is that they do so with impunity. Of course they are arrested and booked, but in just a few days or weeks, they are back running loose on the streets. Most black youths (yoots) think being arrested is a joke, amusing and funny.
     
  21. JohnnyMo

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    Source
     
  22. nom de plume

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    Source? Do your own research. Google it. It's only a click away.
     
  23. bomac

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    Most people on the far-left do believe that "black-on-black crime" does exist, including me. So why the thread?
     
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    You made the statement. Support it or admit it's an opinion.
     
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    Nothing in the article states that "black-on-black" crimes do not exist. The author is talking about how the right uses this phrase to whip up racism. The author would welcome any help in reducing black-on-black crime. That was not the point of the article. Just read the entire article and comprehend.
     

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