Seriously, what is wrong with Christians?

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  1. thebrucebeat

    thebrucebeat Banned

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    So you think Donald Trump a genius?
    I would need a different litmus test.
     
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    LOLOL.. No.. I saw Trump in St Moritz.. He's a jerk.. but he also didn't create a new technology that is useful and in demand worldwide.
     
  3. thebrucebeat

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    Oh.
    Did the Pearl do that?
    I missed a post.
     
  4. taikoo

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    Its true.. I nor anyone could "debate" total dishonesty.
    I hope for your sake,or anyone near you, that you do some day learn to take responsibility for yourself.

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    He is a genius at being Trump.
     
  5. taikoo

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    We are smart enough to wonder why you keep belabouring the obvious.

    And

    Smart enough to notice you are the exact mirror to P7, making up things that other people said and then not accepting you are doing it when confronted.
     
  6. TheBlackPearl

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    Yeah we Triple 9 Society members regard Mensans as dullards. Top 2%? Bah! We are the top one tenth of 1%.

    What have I accomplished with my super IQ? I developed a mnemonically colorized musical notation system that allows anyone (with at least the intelligence of an average 5 year old) to read ANY musical notation (in standard or tablature), no matter how complex, note for note and then find the location of each note and determine the most efficent fingering pattern for executing any musical passage on any stringed musical instrument. It also allows the user to instantly compute any musical chord or scale in any key. And I wrote the approved patent for it myself. That would be my main claim to fame. But there are others including a few minor advances in physics such as determining the probable location of the universe's "missing" antimatter.


    Its a communication problem. What seems blatantly obvious to us is often cryptically obscure to people of average intelligence. What I wrote was actually a response to what SHOULD have been going through his mind. Considering that its absurd to hold up the Bible as any kind of moral guide handed down from an all wise being and then turn around the next minute and say that its OK that the laws it contains are archaic and primitive. I'm also not sure what part of the word "sarcastic" you aren't connecting with.
     
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    That would be your use of it.
    At 130 I'm one of you, and yet so little like you.
     
  8. TheBlackPearl

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    No you're just a Mensan. There is nearly as much difference between you and I as there is between you and average. You're still in a range where you can connect with the average and they look to you as a leader. The average think I'm completely insane.
     
  9. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    I think the word you're looking for isn't insane, but arrogant. Nobody, theists and atheists alike, gives a damn what your IQ is.
     
  10. thebrucebeat

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    Not insane.
    Just an arrogant elitist.
    That's a choice, not a condition. Don't blame a gift you had no control over.
    If it is impossible to communicate for you, which is clearly not your gift, why come on here?
    Is it to simply maintain a self-satisfied erection?
     
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    We're more interested in how people use what they have.
    It dont see too bright to present as a self-delighted screed factory.
     
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    Here's your original post and your defense of it.
    The sarcasm is not evident anywhere in it, which isn't unusual, because sarcasm is frequently dependent on audible or visual cues, and is very difficult to convey in the written form.
    With that said, I think that is merely a after-the-fact excuse.
    You simply blew it.
    But that is my strength. Communication. Your accomplishments were not dependent on it, and you are very lucky that was the case.
     
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    Yes what, that you made an error with the big,huge brain of yours ?

    I think Brucebeat covered this well.
     
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    What part of this fails to meet your definition of a visual cue for sarcasm?

    :clapping::clapping::woot::clapping::clapping::woot::clapping::clapping:
     
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    Many things.
    It does represent a PERFECT visual cue for self satisfaction and congratulations, however.
    But then, like I said, communication is not your gift.
     
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    I'm sure you can prove that statement too ? You might as well say to me that the past didn't influence the present.

    People in general.

    Doesn't make any difference,it was their laws that made them accountable within their society.

    You can only enlighten people so much at a time. You do realize that people in this time frame sacrificed their kids to their fire God ? These were not 21 century people that were learning right from wrong,this is why I said baby steps. I suppose you could complain about woman's liberation movement taking so long without so much as a peep about it from God..lol

    What is evil to God ? (Don't even know why you would believe in evil in the first place, it's not scientific.)

    If that is your position then you cannot place blame on Jesus for the Old testament laws because he was radically different in the New testament.

    My position has always been that God changes people's minds over time,not that anyone was stupid. I wish you wouldn't put words in my mouth. They were just coming from a primitive place that you cannot imagine because you are far past that time and God's morals were accepted within their reach.

    Is it so much of a stretch to conclude that the "love your neighbors,Love your enemies,Love one another,do unto others" bit wasn't extended to those that they considered property as well? Yes, ... Absolutely. You can't justify it by the teachings of Jesus, whether you think he is the God of the old testament or not, the message is radically different in that respect.

    I meant he wasn't teaching a doctrine of war, he was teaching a doctrine of love. If you love your God with all your heart, you would listen to the "fulfillment" part of God's plan which had a little something to do with Jesus,eh ?

    I said Within the confines of his own creation and will,that bringing 21st century priorities and principles to a caveman within a blink of time might have been.

    Yes you are, Grasping, but I do not think this is within your reach,or mine for that matter.
     
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    So essentially, you have an abundance of intellectual firepower, and no wisdom. I've got that about right, haven't I?
     
  18. GraspingforPeace

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    No, I can't prove it, I am just abiding by Occam's razor.

    You claimed that before the Biblical laws, there was no accountability.

    Can you actually, I don't know, back up what you're saying at all? You seem to be limiting the ability of God and relying on the argument that the people were too stupid to be told that slavery was bad. What would have happened had God told them NOT to rape, enslave, and commit genocide?

    Are you implying that God doesn't consider the things he advocated in the Old Testament to be evil?

    That's a silly proposition. If Hitler decided one day that what he was doing was completely immoral, and decided to do good instead, I sincerely doubt that anybody would simply forgive him because he had a change of heart.

    Whatever you want to call it, stupid, primitive, simple-minded, it doesn't matter. You're claiming that there was something inherently different about humans only around 2.5-3 millenia ago that made them incapable of understanding simple moral instructions. I see no reason to buy into this argument. Did you know that Ashoka the Great banned the slave trade and capital punishment in the 3rd century BCE? Slavery was also banned under the Qin Dynasty in the late 3rd century BCE as well.

    Then how did Jesus think that the Law could be described by "love thy neighbor as yourself" if it is "so much of a stretch"?

    My question above still stands.

    These people weren't cavemen, and I still see no reason to accept that interpretation.

    So, accept whatever is told to us based on faith then? I'll pass and stick with rational questioning.
     
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    Once again you make no sense, but I thought I was on your ignore list? I was hoping for some debate, all I get are more childish insults.
     
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    Neither of which is on display here.
     
  21. GraspingforPeace

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    Perhaps that sort of response is proportionate to the dishonesty and falsity that you've been presenting us with.
     
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    I will wait for the next time you make something up, and you can deny that too.

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    Do you suppose that he really and actually cant tell that he is making things up?
     
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    If something sets the ground rules on how something is to operate, what is that called?
     
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    WanRen is like this, and he seems legitimately detached from his dishonesty.
    It's kind of fascinating to watch.
     
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    He created us, he could've given us as much enlightenment as we needed. He didn't need to create us without any skills, did he? Or they, depending of which hebrew God word one uses.
     
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