School removes 'Christ the Savior' from 'Silent Night'

Yes only a minority of government schools engage in religious faith and it's celebration and whine when told it is not to be allowed out of respect for other beliefs.

 

Ok, ok, you've made it perfectly clear that you're a staunch politically correct guy b/c you keep repeating this same old babble every time this problem comes up. Many parents can't afford to send their kids to private schools!

In the last paragraph, the father said it best..... but then he's asking a common sense question.

 

They don't have to refrain, who is preventing them from their PRIVATE celebrations on their own time and their own dime?

So it the government schools start teaching that only if you believe in dragons and fairies is your life worthy and that only then does god love you the Christians will be OK with that?

Or should we just keep religious faith out of a government school settings and the Churches and religious parents can do their job on their own time and their own dime?

 

Specious but nonetheless, I guess if the schools start teaching that there is no Christ or supernatural beings that the Christian children will survive too and that is won't be a tortuous ordeal either so it would be OK for them to do so.

They do, that's the point. The slippery slope and the fact that there are Christian teachers who if given the chance would in fact try to influence the religious faith or non-belief of children in their charge and not just teachers but administrators.

Well unless you state outright then it is perfectly reasonable to assume that a person desiring Christian celebration in a public school is a Christian don't you think? And my use of the word "you" and "yours" was generic as was obvious.

 

What happened to all this 'tolerance' that you lefties are always preaching about?

So you're saying if you hear 3 words "Christ, the Savior", it's going to wreck your whole day?

 

Yeah, those Government schools, real pushers of religion

Wouldn't want those poor Muslims who go to Christmas concerts to feel offended now do we, Bluesguy?

 

Because the progressive left is not already teaching that in conformity with their secular humanist belief system.

Your fearmongering is laughable when one stands back and realizes that Government schools are run by leftists.

No, I don't think that. Nice try at validating your hasty generalization, though.

 

No, he can't.....

In a way, it's laughable. The non-Christians hear 3 words "Christ the Savior" and they crumble b/c they're so 'offended'..... what a bunch of wimpy little weenies.......

 

How are their rights being ignored? Were the Muslims, Jews, etc kids told they couldn't celebrate the holiday in their own way?

This is a once a year event and again, where is the TOLERANCE that you lefties keep preaching about?

 

sadly many fanatical Christians have shown in the past that they can not help but use their position of power to push their brand of religion on other people children

you do know it was Christin infighting among differing denominations that cause religion to be removed from the schools in the first place, Atheists alone never had the power to make that happen

remember when the country feared the Catholics taking over...


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we celebrate all the holidays this time of year , this is a tradition if you hate American tradition leave

 

Very well said.... very refreshing. Words from a mature person who can listen to another religion's songs and not crumble, wailing how you're so 'offended', believing that Christian kids should also enjoy their once a yr traditional celebration w/o having significant parts omitted, just like the Muslim, Jewish kids enjoy theirs and not go into all that psychobabble rant about 'taxpayers $' and 'put your kids in a private school if you don't like the intolerance'.......

I bet your mother is proud of you......

 

No, is that the depth of your comprehension of the matter?

 

I've seen it first hand as I spoke of earlier.

Wouldn't want Buddist, Jewish, Hindu, Confucians, Wiccans, Muslims or any non-Christians who attend government schools to have to explain to their children why the school was telling them only Christians are worthy in the eyes of god.

 

No they aren't just as the conservative right is not teaching secular humanist belief systems.

So why would you want leftist teaching your children religious faith?

So care to actually comment on what I stated?

 

Whut?! "Silent Night" is a long time traditional Christian Christmas song that has been sung in this country for EONS!

If the mentally deranged politically correct jackasses don't like it...... TO DAMN BAD!

 

What does any of that have to do with anything? So you'd be OK with the schools teaching that Christians are infidels?

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And no one is stopping people from singing it on their own time and their own dime are they?

Why do you even want the schools involved in your religious faith? Government run and as noted by progressive's, schools and you trust them to teach religious faith and hold religious ceremony on your behalf. Not a very conservative position that is for sure.

 

Every time I hear this comment, I can't help but wonder 'are you really that weak-minded that you actually think you're being 'forced' to accept someone's religious beliefs?

 

I think the best thing to do would have been to avoid the song completely. Changing the words was dumb. As to the separation issue, can we think about this from a different perspective for a minute? I've seen plenty of people on this forum, from all sides, complain about children coming home from school having learned things counter to their faith. Well imagine you're Jewish or Muslim and your 9 or 10 year old comes home singing "Christ the Savior is born" because he/she has been practicing it all week long for the concert. Are you really going to be okay with that just happening out of the blue? Even if you had known about it ahead of time and didn't want him singing that, are you really going to ostracize your kid by removing him from the concert or telling him not to sing during that song? As much as Christians like to complain about atheists when this kind of thing comes up, most of us don't really care. We aren't devout. Singing about Christ is like singing about Frosty, as far as I'm concerned. But there are very devout people of non-Christian faiths for which that kind of thing would be blasphemy. Sticking to the secular parts of the holiday is the most tolerant way to handle this.

 

Sure! Why not? If it's their holiday, like Christmas is for Christians, they should be allowed to celebrate their 1-day year event also......

I think it would be a good thing and educational for kids to observe their classmates traditional celebrations.....

 

When a teacher leads a classroom in a religious song yes there is intimation and force behind it.

 

Couldn't agree more. It always amazes me how Christian conservatives whine about the "progressive liberal atheist" who run the schools and then want them to lead their children in religious activities.

 

Even as an atheist, I agree that that was a stupid thing to do. It doesn't make sense to strip Christ out of a hymn that is about Christ and then sing it like that for a school Christmas program. And yeah, it's bound to offend Christians, and I can't imagine the idiots who decided to rewrite that hymn not having realised that it would. Perhaps it's what they wanted.

 

Dude, when you start posting words of old-fashioned COMMON SENSE, all you're doing is rattling the politically corrects cages and it might leave them a little confused........

You should know by now that words of common sense/logic is a foreign language to them.........

 

And I've seen the opposite. Very much so. So my anecdote crosses out yours. Now what?

Or they can just not go if they are that wimpy, or they focus on the religious songs that cater to their own religion.