What privilege does the rich have and how do they screw the rest 99%?

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  1. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

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    Ohh please. I villify the rich for two reasons:

    1) SOME (not all, or even most) of them evade taxes. FACT.
    2) They BUY politicians through lobbying. FACT.

    Your personal insults do nothing to prove your point. I don't care if one is rich or not. Just pay your taxes and don't try to corrupt the government any more than it already is.
     
  2. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    the corporations are often the ones who write our market regulations.. and these regulations are typically designed to give them the advantage/destroy their competition in the "free" market


    “The interest of [businessmen] is always in some respects different from, and even opposite to, that of the public ... The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order ... ought never to be adopted, till after having been long and carefully examined ... with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men ... who have generally an interest to deceive and even oppress the public” - Adam Smith
     
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    They don't evade taxes; they write the tax code to benefit themselves.
    I read countless posts on this site of progressives supporting politicians that sell legislation that benefits the rich as if it were for the benefit of lower classes. The only way to level the playing field is to vastly decrease the power currently held by govt.

    Also, it is not a personal insult to describe someone witout subject knowledge as ignorant. In fact, I am confident that you have the where withall to grasp my point.
     
  4. danielpalos

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    I still have some issues with capitalists having any form of problem with capital under our form of Capitalism. Is it merely a lack of Faith.

    I believe we should merely "free-ride" on any privileges and immunities established by Persons of wealth in our republic. It is why Article 4, Section 2 is such a rational choice of law in any conflict of laws arising under the authority of the United States.
     
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    Oh, I'm not compelling you to do anything, the rules are.
     
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    Thank you.
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    This is kind of (ongoing) thing is a massive problem. And it touches directly upon what I mean, when I suggest that laws are devised to unfairly benefit the wealthy... using our politics as a vehicle. Most astute Americans KNOW this is happening. It is also why we must actively seek (in political ways) to effectively limit the influence of 'money' upon our laws.

    Just because a few find ways to 'game' the entire system, does NOT mean the American people must allow it. Disadvantaging, using or siphoning the quality of life from the working class American seems to almost be an evil 'sport', IMO. :(
     
  8. danielpalos

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    It may be the difference between a rule of law State, and a rule of State law, State.
     
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    I am curious, what income level do you consider "rich."
     
  10. dnsmith

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    What privilege rich people have comes from the wealth that they earned, so effectively they did earn the privilege received.
     
  11. dnsmith

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    Equal protection under the law does not mean the rich should share their wealth with others.
    Oh? Last I heard a man who operated a Ponzi was sentenced to 150 years. Now that is equal protection under the law.
    Baloney!
    :roflol:

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    The difference between you and me? I don't envy the rich. I accept no BS from them but unlike you I do not envy them or blame them for my own choices not to seek more wealth.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    Good post! Some folks consider NOT ENVYING THE RICH to be effectively advocating for them. That is rubbish.
     
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    Some folks consider allowing the rich to do whatever they want, at any cost to society, to be effectively advocating for the common good. That IS total rubbish.
     
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    You do accept BS from them. I don't envy the rich either. The rich buy your corrupt politicians, get more lenient punishment in the law, and are masters at tax evasion. You accept all of it. I don't.
     
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    Excellent post, and quite true.
     
  17. danielpalos

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    I prefer to simply goad the wealthiest into insisting their public servants simply and merely, purchase the Finest solutions money can buy, with an official Mint at their disposal under our form of Capitalism.
     
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    Then I assume you are not voting for giving government yet more power, and thus yet more power for the rich to misuse?
     
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    Allowing the rich to do what ever they want is wrong. I don't know anyone, not even a very wealthy friend, or any wage earners with which I am familiar who believe that "what ever they want, at any cost to society" is the proper way to go. I don't know where you come up with such ridiculous notions. I advocate for for the process of good corporate citizens, not a laissez-faire cut throat approach to their employees or society. I don't envy the rich as many people do. I respect those who are good personal or corporate citizens.

    You paint the picture that all or even most corporate entities are anarcho-capitalists. I do not accept that and I base my opinion on personal experience as a business consultant. Anarcho-capitalism does not exist in the US nor in any civilized country. The point is, business is there to make a profit, and if they are not good societal citizens they tend to go out of business.
     
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    A simple solution to this "market failure" is to simply Tax the wealthiest until we solve simple poverty; then lower their taxes to a new equilbrium, afterward.
     
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    This is nonsense.

    You can hide 'wealth' and not stop a continuation of the formation of more wealth. If that were the case, no wealth could ever have been formed, since you clearly believe that no wealth can be formed without first having wealth.

    :roll:

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    Your ideology is dangerously stupid.
     
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    How ever did you reach your conclusion from what I wrote?

    It is only the concentration of wealth that engenders relative poverty; otherwise, market participants should be engaging in voluntary social transactions that have the effect of improving their Standard of living.

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    Why should I confide in your sincerity? You may want to try a more sound line of reasoning. In any Case, we are only dealing with lucre. Why do you believe merely taxing the wealthiest until we solve simple poverty in our republic is not a worthwhile endeavor that is well within our "mission" parameters as civil Persons in our republic?

     
  23. FixingLosers

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    Who are "some folks"?

    And how can the rich "do whatever they want"? Can you present an example?
     
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    I am sure your ilk will fare better under anarchy.
     
  25. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    yeah, France is doing great..

    okay, then I know.
     
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