Free Crack Pipes! Get your Free Crack Pipes in San Francisco!

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  1. BitterPill

    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    Is Larry Sinclair a relation of yours?

    At least we know why you knew to send Obama a crack pipe for Christmas. Is there anything else you did for Obama?
     
  2. texmaster

    texmaster Banned

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    Yes. You can Exchange a broken crack pipe for a brand new one. Are you even thinking about these responses or is this just pure emotional for you?

    Of course it does. A broken crack pipe for a brand new one keeps a crack addict from buying a new one.

    Name one. Go ahead.

    and you base this BS off of.....absolutely nothing. What a shocker.

    It certainly makes it easier doesn't it since I can't smoke without a lighter. Doh! lol

    How does it reduce addiction? Explain how specifically with an actual study and not an emotional opinion.

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    Do you think it helps reduce them by making it easier to get a new one?

    San Francisco, California - yet another California city that has experienced problems with cocaine and prescription drug abuse for many years. The city had 133 cocaine related deaths in a one year period and more than 700 Emergency Room visits because of cocaine in three months. The San Francisco Public Press reports that properly disposing of prescription drugs has also become a real problem in the city and lead many to prescription addiction. The current solution for prescriptions has been to flush the drugs or throw them in the garbage which leaves them open to be taken and abused. Oxycodone is currently one of the most abused prescriptions in San Francisco.

    http://trusted.md/blog/beckywinslow/2011/06/13/5_cities_with_the_highest_drug_abuse_rates


    I'm sure its just a coincidence that San Francisco has one of the highest drug user bases in the country right?

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  3. samiam5211

    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    They aren't trying to help the drug problem, they are trying to help the disease problem.
     
  4. texmaster

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    Read the article:

    Activists claim that such a program would have many of the same benefits of needle exchanges, essentially connecting users with services that could help them turn their lives around.

    So no its not just this fantasy theory of curbing disease which isn't proven anywhere. In fact, its the reverse.

    By 1988, Zurich's Platzpitz Park became a center for free needle distribution. But the city became a haven for foreign addicts and the number of needles exchanged each day grew four-fold from 3,000 to 12,000 per day before the park was closed in 1992.

    http://www.thirteen.org/closetohome/policy/html/needle.html
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    It's a dollar. If you can point to single person that got off crack/ got on crack over a dollar.... you may have a point.
     
  6. texmaster

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    If San Francisco wasn't one of the leaders in drug use you may have a point.

    You need evidence that drug use goes up when you give drug addicts free stuff? No problem.

    By 1988, Zurich's Platzpitz Park became a center for free needle distribution. But the city became a haven for foreign addicts and the number of needles exchanged each day grew four-fold from 3,000 to 12,000 per day before the park was closed in 1992.

    http://www.thirteen.org/closetohome/policy/html/needle.html

    Now what.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    That proves absolutely nothing, if anything the same addicts went through more needles instead of using old ones and sharing with others....And you somehow think this is bad?

    And now you claim that the free 1 dollar crack pipe is the reason that San Francisco is one of the leaders in drug use....????

    1. How long has the program been in use?

    2. Show us proof that San Fran. is one of the leaders of crack use.
     
  8. texmaster

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    LOL Drug use increased after giving free stuff out to drug users. Only you would consider that progress. :roflol:

    Of course not since it was just implemented. But I can look at the free needles they have distributed for 15 years as solid proof giving free stuff to drug users doesn't work.

    Better give it up. You aren't going to win this. :dual: :applause:
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Prove drug use went up instead of people using fresh needles more often... Rule 10

    Because it makes much more sense that people got into drug use now because they could get a <1 dollar needle for free.... Much more sense than people who are already addicted swapping out needles more often.
     
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    As well, I suspect they are mostly using these so called crack pipes to smoke crystal meth. Significant difference between crack mad and meth mad.
     
  11. texmaster

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    I just did. 15 years of needle distribution and San Fransisco is one of the highest drug abuse cities in the nation.

    Prove to us that giving drug users free stuff reduces drug use. Rule 10.

    I've already given you another example of direct correlation of more abuse with free needles with another article. You have provided nothing to back yourself up.
     
  12. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Do you think Barack Hussein Obama celebrates Christmas?

    What about Barry Soetoro, did he celebrate Christmas?
     
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    Needle exchanges seem to work well for British Columbia.

    Granted, decriminalizing crack would probably help SF most. It would reduce the appeal of the drug to criminals, because it would reduce its value.
     
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    Prohibition doesn't work when it comes to drugs. Harm reduction does work.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    So you think the 5 dollar crack rock is over priced or what?

    Cocaine Prices

    Cocaine prices in 2000 remained low and stable, suggesting a steady supply to the United States. Nationwide, wholesale cocaine prices ranged from $12,000 to $35,000 per kilogram. In most major metropolitan areas, however, the price of a kilogram of cocaine ranged from $13,000 to $25,000. Average purity for cocaine at the gram, ounce, and kilogram levels remained stable at high levels. In 2000, the average purity of a kilogram of cocaine was 75 percent. Typically, cocaine HCl is converted into crack cocaine, or &#8220;rock,&#8221; within the United States by the secondary wholesaler or retailer. Crack cocaine is often packaged in vials, glassine bags, and film canisters. The size of a crack rock can vary, but generally ranges from 1/10 to 1/2 gram. Rocks can sell for as low as $3 to as high as $50, but prices generally range from $10 to $20.
     
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    Do you not understand what is going on??? Youve shown NEEDLEs were requested more often , you have shown no evidence that the number of drug users went up. Now once again, prove that the needle use that went up was do to more drug users enticed by a sub dollar needle instead of current drug users using a clean needle more often... You have dodged this many times... show us proof.

    And now you are making up claims for other people and then asking them to prove it?

    I think its clear who has won this debate....

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    depends on the weight , location, and quality. :smoking:
     
  17. Phoebe Bump

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    As soon as the personally responsible lawyers in my town stop dealing dope or taking it as a fee-for-service, or when our personally responsible presidents stop smuggling cocaine into Mississippi aboard AF C-130s, or as soon as the personally responsible brokers on Wall street stop making NYC the hottest coke market in America, I'll listen to your whining about teenie-weenie insignificant little crack pipes.
     
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    It's about stopping the spread of disease, just like the needle exchanges.
     
  19. BitterPill

    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    Why would I ask if you sent Obama a crack pipe for Christmas if I thought Obama didn't celebrate Christmas.

    I'm not sure who that is, but it sounds like he's dead, and dead people can't celebrate Christmas.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    can you get hiv from a crack pipe?

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    nope, hes not dead. In fact Barry Soetoro, and Barack Hussein Obama are the exact same age, and born on the same date, at exactly the same time.
     
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    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    That's an interesting coincidence.

    So, I asked if you sent Obama a crack pipe for Christmas, and instead of answering you ask me if I think Obama celebrates Christmas. Now I have a new question: Why would you ask if I think Obama celebrates Christmas after I inquired about the gift you sent him for Christmas?
     
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    because I didnt send obama a crack pipe for christmas, or if he even celebrates christmas. If I get a free crack pipe in Nancy Pelosi's district, Ill send it to obama next christmas. I simply dont have a use for a crack pipe.
     
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    They're in San Francisco... and they're focused on pipes as the cause for the spread of HIV ?!!?!
     
  24. BitterPill

    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    So you do think Obama celebrates Christmas, but you didn't send him a crack pipe.

    Thank you....
     
  25. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    No, your mistaken.

    I do not know if obama celebrates christmas, and no I did not send obama a crack pipe.
     

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