Can you name something "Good" about Islam?

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Charity is the only saving grace for the Christian churches, too...

    31 When the Son of Man comes in His glory (His majesty and splendor), and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.
    32 All nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them [the people] from one another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats;
    33 And He will cause the sheep to stand at His right hand, but the goats at His left.
    34 Then the King will say to those at His right hand, Come, you blessed of My Father [you [g]favored of God and appointed to eternal salvation], inherit (receive as your own) the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
    35 For I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you [h]brought Me together with yourselves and welcomed and entertained and lodged Me,
    36 I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you visited Me [j]with help and ministering care, I was in prison and you came to see Me.
     
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    10 years before.
    Cite a credible source that show the WMD existed and were sent to Syria.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Firstly, why would Syria accept or need the gas as it is so easy to make your own, so no one would need to store it? It is basic chemistry/biology to manufacture using 100 year old technology.
    Secondly, what would be the point of having the gas if you send it to another country at the only time you need it?
     
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    Muslim outrage of the day:

    On September 25, 2013, two Egyptian Christians living in Libya were killed by a group of Muslims after they refused to convert to Islam. Waleed Saad Shaker (25) and Nash'at Shenouda Ishaq (27) were surrounded by the assailants on a rural road in Dema district. The Muslims robbed and beat them and demanded that the Christians recite the shahada, the Islamic confession of faith. When the pair refused, the attackers tied them up and shot them.
     
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    That sounds strangely familiar for some reason. Like it reminds me of another group or something.

    [​IMG]
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.........… fallen angels have a field day influencing religious people to go over to dark side type behaviour!!!!!????

    One of the clearest explanations of why we Christians murdered and tortured so many people over the past 19 centuries was given by Pastor Rick Joyner in some sort of visionary dream:

    http://www.heaven.net.nz/visions/the-hordes-of-hell-are-marching.htm


     
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    Muslim outrage of the day:

    Abdikhani Hassan was killed as he came home from his pharmacy in Mogadishu on October 20, 2013; before the shooting, one of the attackers told the Christian's Muslim neighbor, "We have information that Hassan is spreading wrong religion by our people, and we are looking for him." At the time of his death, Abdikhani's wife was pregnant with the couple's sixth child.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    John Loftus, director of The Intelligence Summit, said in the November 16, 2007 issue of FrontPage Magazine that many documents from Iraq point to WMD being transferred to other countries such as Syria: "As stated in more detail in my full report, the British, Ukrainian and American secret services all believed that the Russians had organized a last minute evacuation of CW and BW stockpiles from Baghdad to Syria." His researchers allegedly found a document ordering the concealment of nuclear weapons equipment in storage facilities under the Euphrates River a few weeks before the invasion.[14]
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The gases are not so easily manufactured.

    Saddam obtained the gas with russian aid.
    They were sent out of the country because our troops were using gas masks and on the ready.


    Stockpiles transported to another country conjecture


    Rumors have abounded of possible transportation of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to foreign countries, namely Syria, Lebanon and Iran, in the weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began. John Bolton told the House Committee on Foreign Affairs that these reports give "cause for concern."[12]
     
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    The Intelligence Summit's emphasis is upon terrorism and jihad related issues;[4] former Jamaa Islamia terrorist and author Tawfik Hamid is on the Summit's Advisory Council. Ahmed Bedier of the Council on American-Islamic Relations noted of Hamid's participation in the Summit, "The Intelligence Summit is a group of neoconservatives and private intelligence agencies that are benefiting from the war on terrorism. And opportunists like Hamid and others at this event are bashing and cashing and making money from it."[5] Legal analyst Victoria Toensing said, "This is not a mainstream conference with recognized names in the field. I've been in the intelligence and terrorism world a long time, and I would not suggest going to this conference for intelligence or terrorism information."[3]

    Great source.
     
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    Boots on the ground by the name of Blitz said this was bs, and so did Colin Powell when he left the White House.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You asked for sources, which I gave you.
    Proof is something that would have made the Left media bias shut up and we would not be discussing this.
     
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    I asked for CREDIBLE sources.
    Perhaps you missed that part.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You mean LIBERAL sources, which would eliminate Bolton, of course and anyone else who wasn't on your side here.

    The TRUTH is that we do NOT have evidence about what Saddam did with the gas he used on the Kurds, and the WMD might have been developmental and eliminated, too.
    We DO have videos of Russian conveys leaving Iraq and heading into Syria before Desert Storm began.
     
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    Colin Powell is a republican and was a republican Sec. of State.
    Powell said this report of the "conveys"(sic) were total crap.
    Next.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    So... ?

    We KNOW the Russians were there and we have direct evidence of their convoys.
    WMD were used by Saddam because he gases the Kurds, and we suspected from other sources that he had the basis for Atom bombs to some degree.

    It is true that people have no way, and that each side had its position.
     
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    Your "positions" have been punked by the facts. Facts are not a position.
     
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    Then why don't you educate me? What is a dark age? I bet you won't get this one right.
     
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    Funny. I didn't remember saying anything about science. There is much more to civilization than scientific progress. Besides, sending people to death over heresy was the norm ever since Emperor Justinian codified Roman law. So, death for heresy is a secular law, not a religious one.

    This is a pop culture myth. Not history. If it were true than why don't western civ text books reflect such an "obvious fact" and why haven't you shown any proof?

    Originally, the universities were used only for teaching theology and law but soon opened up to other fields of learning.

    Your posting on the church have the sound of some anti-Catholic fundamentalist rather than some interested student of history. There were a lot of things that went on between the fall of Rome and the Italian Renaissance. Yes, a lot of it bad, but a lot of it good as well. You apparently believe it was nothing but death and mayhem. You won't find such nonsense in university approved textbooks.

    Here's a couple of links for ya...

    http://www.earthchronicle.com/EC/Timelines/MedievalEuropeMythOfTheDarkAges.aspx

    http://hnn.us/article/142449
     
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    Its a lack of historical information. Normally this is due to societal chaos and/or war.

    Let me know if you need further education.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Science is part of progress of western civilization. The discipline I chose was not the point. The point was the fallacy I was pointing out.


    This is pure unadulterated disingenuous historical ignorance. Even you are not this stupid.

    Look. If you want to pretend to be stupid do it on someone else's time.
     
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    He got you and now you don't know how to reply.
    Ignorance isn't an excuse.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You post a link claiming that the "Dark age" was a Myth. The person that wrote this is a complete idiot.

    Text books western civilization text books are filled with discussion of the dark age. Numerous historians have done their doctorates on the topic.

    You should be embarrassed for even stating such a ridiculous thing. Saying western civilization history textbooks do not discuss various dark ages is like saying Math books do not discuss fractions.

    Next you will be arguing that psychology text books have never heard of Freud or that Russian history has never heard of Stalin.

    Please. . Stop this nonsense.
     

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